Thor Sentry VS HP Doomsday Darkseid

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No PIS means the OE annihilates anything below skyfather level 100% of the time.

Has Superman not tanked it before? Has Wonder Woman's bracers not tanked it before? Has heat vision not stopped it before?

And fun fact, Thor tanked the Omega Beams in the Marvel vs DC crossover, and was only knocked down, and got right back up as I recall. Not using it as evidence or anything, is it's not allowed on this board. Also, it hasn't been cannon in my opinion since JLA/Avengers came out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Has Superman not tanked it before? Has Wonder Woman's bracers not tanked it before? Has heat vision not stopped it before?

And fun fact, Thor tanked the Omega Beams in the Marvel vs DC crossover, and was only knocked down, and got right back up as I recall. Not using it as evidence or anything, is it's not allowed on this board. Also, it hasn't been cannon in my opinion since JLA/Avengers came out.

Also what's the point of even referencing a crossover if you know its meaningless?

IMO CIS/PIS free DS is very formidible. Same goes for sentry if he is voided and goes all Molecular Man Killer on people. Thor is dangerous as well.

DD does not benefit as much from a CIS/PIS environment. He is quick strong and he adapts but one kill by either Thor or Sentry could counts as a loss here also DD can not do anything to protect himself from a BFR.

I think it's basically a 2 on one. DS main attack is the OE. But I think Thor's hammer could atleast deflect if not absorb it. Then again DS could do that thing he did to henshaw to atleast one of the guys on team 1 (maybe).

ANyway Team 1 more times than not.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You missed the part where I said "No PIS". With the possible exception of WW's Skyfather level bracers those incidents reek of PIS. You clearly don't understand what the true OE is. It isn't heat vision and shouldn't be blocked by heat vision. Its a cosmic effect that warps reality at its highest showings.

Also what's the point of even referencing a crossover if you know its meaningless?

I agree, the OE is very powerful if PIS is not here but as I said befor it can be countered by the hammer, Also i do not know what would happen to Sentry. He always seems to comeback out of nothing.... (but i guess it would technically be a loss)

as for the crossover im sure he just wanted to stop any foolish discussion before it even starts.

there is no way in hell that thor can take hp doomsday

Originally posted by Lord Feron
IMO CIS/PIS free DS is very formidible. Same goes for sentry if he is voided and goes all Molecular Man Killer on people. Thor is dangerous as well.

DD does not benefit as much from a CIS/PIS environment. He is quick strong and he adapts but one kill by either Thor or Sentry could counts as a loss here also DD can not do anything to protect himself from a BFR.

I think it's basically a 2 on one. DS main attack is the OE. But I think Thor's hammer could atleast deflect if not absorb it. Then again DS could do that thing he did to henshaw to atleast one of the guys on team 1 (maybe).

ANyway Team 1 more times than not.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I agree, the OE is very powerful if PIS is not here but as I said befor it can be countered by the hammer, Also i do not know what would happen to Sentry. He always seems to comeback out of nothing.... (but i guess it would technically be a loss)

as for the crossover im sure he just wanted to stop any foolish discussion before it even starts.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid could do to Sentry what he did to Henshaw.

True, and probably to a greater extent because Henshaw >>> Sentry 😎

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You missed the part where I said "No PIS". With the possible exception of WW's Skyfather level bracers those incidents reek of PIS. You clearly don't understand what the true OE is. It isn't heat vision and shouldn't be blocked by heat vision. Its a cosmic effect that warps reality at its highest showings.

Also what's the point of even referencing a crossover if you know its meaningless?

Uhuh. So all the instances, that you consider low showings for the Omega Effect don't count. We don't consider only the high showings. We average shit out. I also just remembered the Firestorm incident. There's also one more scene but I can't recall it.

It's just a fun fact like I said. We were on the topic and it popped into my head.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh. So all the instances, that you consider low showings for the Omega Effect don't count. We don't consider only the high showings. We average shit out. I also just remembered the Firestorm incident. There's also one more scene but I can't recall it.

It's just a fun fact like I said. We were on the topic and it popped into my head.

Thor using mjolnir is to deflecting it is believable.

Absorbing you seem to strongly disagree with this possibility. Using the hammer to absorb stuff is not like he is absorbing it into himself (unless he purposly is trying to but usually the hammer takes it all leaving Thor unharmed). So the case that he would not mentally be able to handle the OE is not even up for discussion becuase thats not how the hammer works with Thor.

Thor has did the soul thig and energy thing and mystical power thing with his hammer. Again it will not affect Thor's will because he is simply absorbing the OE or whatever it is (kind of like grounding the "energy"😉

Or better yet, send the incoming blast to a different dimension.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
PIS is off. So things like Superman blocking them with Heat Vision aren't up for consideration. The Firestorm incident was never explained well and it seemed like a major asspull to keep Darkseid from instantly destroying the entire JLA. In any case neither Sentry nor Thor could replicate Firestorm's feat.

Uhuh. As I recall, Firestorm used his molecular manipulation, to create a tube, that reflected the beams back.

As far as I can tell, Omega Beams are far from an instant win. With Mjolnir Thor can block them. Wouldn't be surprised if he could tank them either.

Sentry cannot be killed at this point. And I don't see why he couldn't replicate the Firestorm feat if he actually tried to. Unless of course I'm forgetting some detail from the incident.

Oh and the only reason Firestorm acted was because Superman wasn't there. Or else Darkseid would have ended at up at Clark's feat once again. Eye's beaten shut and everything. 😄

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Thor using mjolnir is to deflecting it is believable.

Absorbing you seem to strongly disagree with this possibility. Using the hammer to absorb stuff is not like he is absorbing it into himself (unless he purposly is trying to but usually the hammer takes it all leaving Thor unharmed). So the case that he would not mentally be able to handle the OE is not even up for discussion becuase thats not how the hammer works with Thor.

Thor has did the soul thig and energy thing and mystical power thing with his hammer. Again it will not affect Thor's will because he is simply absorbing the OE or whatever it is (kind of like grounding the "energy"😉

Or better yet, send the incoming blast to a different dimension.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Uhuh. As I recall, Firestorm used his molecular manipulation, to create a tube, that reflected the beams back.

As far as I can tell, Omega Beams are far from an instant win. With Mjolnir Thor can block them. Wouldn't be surprised if he could tank them either.

Sentry cannot be killed at this point. And I don't see why he couldn't replicate the Firestorm feat if he actually tried to. Unless of course I'm forgetting some detail from the incident.

Oh and the only reason Firestorm acted was because Superman wasn't there. Or else Darkseid would have ended at up at Clark's feat once again. Eye's beaten shut and everything. 😄

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sentry has almost zero real MM feats that would even make him close to PC Firestorm in terms of matter manipulation. Don't even go there.

His raw power seems to be greater than Molecule Man at current levels.

All Firestorm did was create a tube and reverse the beams. If the Sentry is even a small portion as powerful as Molecule Man, even post Secret Wars, doing something like creating a tube of Adamantium or some other very had substance, wouldn't be hard. It isn't the raw power that's in doubt though, it's his control. Of course, that Wolf like creature that he created in his hand was in my opinion meant to show that he does have pretty decent control.

Unless it was stated that Firestorm used some very specific, special substance to make the tube, then I don't see why Sentry could not replicate the feat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
His raw power seems to be greater than Molecule Man at current levels.

All Firestorm did was create a tube and reverse the beams. If the Sentry is even a small portion as powerful as Molecule Man, even post Secret Wars, doing something like creating a tube of Adamantium or some other very had substance, wouldn't be hard. It isn't the raw power that's in doubt though, it's his control. Of course, that Wolf like creature that he created in his hand was in my opinion meant to show that he does have pretty decent control.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A mere parlor trick. His molecular manipulation seems ambient and rather superficial compared to the feats of guys like Firestorm. He isn't Molecule Man's superior in any way, nor is he is equal. The Molecule Man he fought wasn't close to well written.

Did we read the same comic? It was quite clear, that Sentry is above Molecule Man. At the very least in raw power. I hate the Sentry as much as the next guy, but his a deux machine whenever Bendis needs him to be.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did we read the same comic? It was quite clear, that Sentry is above Molecule Man. At the very least in raw power. I hate the Sentry as much as the next guy, but his a deux machine whenever Bendis needs him to be.

Originally posted by Starscream M
LOL

DD shitted on Darkseid

DD scared Cyborg Superman

DD TOYED with amped Superman and the energy dude

DD would stomp on Thor and Sentry and turn them into blondie juice

1.Superman was scared of him.
2.Superman was less powerful than him.
3.The writer agreed he'd favor an all out Superman at 95 percent power had he been raised on apokolips.
4.Cyborg used DD to get what he wanted.

Now wit all this being said Sentry can just rearrange his molecules if DD is adapting giving him an easy win while he can reform to whatever damage DD incurs.

Thor reflects the oe right back at Ds and whoops him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you sir, have absolutely no clue who HP doomsday is, do ya?

he could solo

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No PIS means the OE annihilates anything below skyfather level 100% of the time.

Closed. Troll thread.