Power girl, Supergirl, Wonder woman vs Thanos

Originally posted by 753
He did do the hard work both times, but after the TOAA was revealed we can all assume that nothing happens without his permission, so the IG drama also happened because he allowed it. Thanos can become omnipotent, provided it suits cosmic consonance. He probably understands this by now.

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Everything that happens in comics, is because the higher powers allow it.

Superman was only able to lift a mountain because, the Presence allowed it. Thor was only able to defeat Galactus because TOAA allowed it.

Does that somehow diminish the feats as it was them who did the hard work and accomplished the feats?

I mean, what exactly is your point here?

Thanos should not be given the credit he is due because the TOAA did not interfere?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Everything that happens in comics, is because the higher powers allow it.

Superman was only able to lift a mountain because, the Presence allowed it. Thor was only able to defeat Galactus because TOAA allowed it.

Does that somehow diminish the feats as it was them who did the hard work and accomplished the feats?

I mean, what exactly is your point here?

Thanos should not be given the credit he is due because the TOAA did not interfere?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think with the HOTU it bears thinking that the ONLY way Thanos would be able to attain true Omnipotence is if the Omnipotent/Omniscient/Omnipresent (TOAA) allowed it to happen. Remember the HOTU is said to be TOAA's power made manifest and TOAA used this as a means to manipulate Thanos into removing himself. Its like a handgun you own that's locked in a safe that you unlock knowing that guy who ****s everything up is going to find it and use it to kill himself.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Or maybe that's a terrible analogy. 😕

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Surely you have to agree though that unless TOAA was certain Thanos wouldn't be able to escape his plan he wouldn't have ever given him Omnipotence correct?

Uatu has witnessed many universes and galaxies fall though. Although I'm sure he (TOAA) exists above all of them. Though the existence of a multiverse means that the 616 universe is but a speck in the sand. But I agree though Thanos with the Guantlet did defy the High Gods and it was destiny that he shed it.

Originally posted by 753
He did do the hard work both times, but after the TOAA was revealed we can all assume that nothing happens without his permission, so the IG drama also happened because he allowed it. Thanos can become omnipotent, provided it suits cosmic consonance. He probably understands this by now.

Are we forgetting that he was specifically picked because of his will and he could actually handle the naked power of THOTI?

THOTI? sorry I'm learning 😮

Originally posted by the ninjak
THOTI? sorry I'm learning 😮

No worries. Both work

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No worries. Both work

Both what? 😮

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are we forgetting that he was specifically picked because of his will and he could actually handle the naked power of THOTI?

He was chosen because he was the right one for the task yes. My point is that his only hope for omnipotence is to serve cosmic consonance and the truly omnipotent's wishes. In the end, he is the master of nothing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are we forgetting that he was specifically picked because of his will and he could actually handle the naked power of THOTI?

It was all part of TOAA plan. At least that what I think

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Everything that happens in comics, is because the higher powers allow it.

Superman was only able to lift a mountain because, the Presence allowed it. Thor was only able to defeat Galactus because TOAA allowed it.

Does that somehow diminish the feats as it was them who did the hard work and accomplished the feats?

I mean, what exactly is your point here?

Thanos should not be given the credit he is due because the TOAA did not interfere?

Perhaps I did not express myself correctly. Obviously all that happens is marvel or dcu is allowed by the presence or toaa.

However, becoming omnipotent has different implications than lifting a mountain or going to the bathroom. All these thing shappen because TOAA alows it, but omnipotence would, at first glance, implie in subverting the cosmos to his will and doing whatever the hell he wants with it regardless of anything else. My point is that he can never truly do this, he can never become truly omnipotent or usurp the place of TOAA. He can only take the power to hold the 'appearance' of true omnipotence in as much as TOAA lets and makes him do it. He can only serve the real omnipotent and cosmic consonance. Therefore, if he dreamt of truly transcending and becoming absolute, that is impossible for him.

He is still due credit for being the right man for the job and getting it done. But to say that he became omnipotent because he wanted to and had the mad skills to pull it off hides the fact that he did it because cosmic consonance demanded it and that he can never truly achieve absolute power over the universe. His power will always be subjected to TOAA.

Same goes for IG if he ever truly menaced the omniverse he would never have taken the power. he was never absolute master of anything.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bullshit. If the TOAA wanted Rhino could have gotten the HOTU if there was a purpose to it. The act of subjugating omnipotent power would be an impossible feat for any being who's not already omnipotent so the logical assumption is that Thanos got it because TOAA let him.

Yes he could, but thanos happened to be the right man for that particular job. Others might have been just as suited though.

@rage

just reread the posts and I see where there might have been a misscommunication. Thanos grabbing the IG is a massive feat for him and demanded a lot of effort and merit on his part. It simply does not entail he can ever be really omnipotent

Originally posted by the ninjak
Both what? 😮

THOTI=THOTU
that's what he meant.

does thoti stand for the heart of the infinite?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bullshit. If the TOAA wanted Rhino could have gotten the HOTU if there was a purpose to it. The act of subjugating omnipotent power would be an impossible feat for any being who's not already omnipotent so the logical assumption is that Thanos got it because TOAA let him.

scans saying this bullshit you're spouting. What you are saying goes against on panel proof. Are you denying that it was SPECIFICALLY stated that Thanos was choosen because of his will and that he could handle the naked power of the heart? Plus IIRC it was also stated he had experience with omnipotence before and thus could hangle it (IG)Was it not specifically stated he was choosen because of his will... while all you're spouting is conjecture?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bullshit. If the TOAA wanted Rhino could have gotten the HOTU if there was a purpose to it. The act of subjugating omnipotent power would be an impossible feat for any being who's not already omnipotent so the logical assumption is that Thanos got it because TOAA let him.

Originally posted by 753
does thoti stand for the heart of the infinite?

Thanks!