Wich super hero would you appreciate the most in RL

Mark Millar's Authority; Dark Knight Returns' Batman, Oliver and even Victor Sage in his rant about the state of affairs the world was in.

They were actually willing to change the world. I specially share most of Authority's political views and perceptions on ends and methods.

Keeping a monstruous beyond words status quo as it is, doing irrelevant charity work and trying to set an example while sitting on the power to change the whole world isn't good enough. Hell, I'd even take Manchester Black and the rest of his Elite over most of the names being posted here. Aliens boyscouts in ivory towers in the moon are only good for fighting off extraterrestrial invasions.

If i were to choose a real pacifist humanitiarain I'd go with Chuck.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
In the real world, the best hero is the one that is willing to kill. Nobody needs a Hero who will just put you in jail. There is no need for that. Heroes should be there to accomplish what the Police, and other law enforcement officer can't do, or aren't allowed to.

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Originally posted by 753
Mark Millar's Authority; Dark Knight Returns' Batman, Oliver and even Victor Sage in his rant about the state of affairs the world was in.

They were actually willing to change the world. I specially share most of Authority's political views and perceptions on ends and methods.

Keeping a monstruous beyond words status quo as it is, doing irrelevant charity work and trying to set an example while sitting on the power to change the whole world isn't good enough. Hell, I'd even take Manchester Black and the rest of his Elite over most of the names being posted here.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Authority are terrible, terrible heroes who would probably cause more harm than good. In the end you want someone who wouldn't meddle in human affairs (unless it was really necessary) but would always be ready to offer a helping hand when a natural disaster struck.

No in the end you may want someone who wouldnt meddle with 'human' affairs. But to me, if someone thinks that human affairs aren't their own, it's because they don't see themselves as human to begin with, just alien in every sense od the word.

I also disagree with your view on Authority.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem with that my friends is that the line becomes hazy between "doing what the law can't accomplish" and reign of terror. Laws exist for a reason and in the real world people like that only ever exist in lawless places like the Old West.

Yes that's why you would need someone as selfless and "good" as Superman, who places his needs below the needs of the earth-populace and who won't abuse his power but who is also willing to kill those who can't follow the most basic rules of society. In RL impossible, though we talk about Superheroes. 🙂

Daredevil...

This guy loves to put bad guys away, legally or not.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem with that my friends is that the line becomes hazy between "doing what the law can't accomplish" and reign of terror. Laws exist for a reason and in the real world people like that only ever exist in lawless places like the Old West.

I agree with you that acting to change things should not become an excuse for totalitarianism. But obeying laws when they are unfair is just as harmfull.

Originally posted by 753
No in the end you may want someone who wouldnt meddle with 'human' affairs. But to me, if someone thinks that human affairs aren't their own, it's because they don't see themselves as human to begin with, just alien in every sense od the word.

I also disagree with your view on Authority.

As for the Authority they've always struck me as temperamental, self-righteous pricks who would probably end up destabilizing the world with their extremely proactive methods. Most governments would probably see them as threats and conspire to destroy them which even assuming success would probably devastate the world.

Originally posted by 753
I agree with you that acting to change things should not become an excuse for totalitarianism. But obeying laws when they are unfair is just as harmfull.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem with that my friends is that the line becomes hazy between "doing what the law can't accomplish" and reign of terror. Laws exist for a reason and in the real world people like that only ever exist in lawless places like the Old West.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How often does it really become necessary to kill someone in the enforcement of justice? Almost never, and when it does its not like police are absolutely unable to use lethal force. Besides I'd say life in prison is far worse than a quick death at some nutjob vigilante's hands.

That may be true for protecting the dominant social order from common crime, which is what most people are talking about, not for changing it.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Not everyone is like that. There are people who know the difference. Sinestro for example is perfect. He doesn't mind to kill, though he loves abusing his power.

Originally posted by 753
That may be true for protecting the dominant social order from common crime, which is what most people are talking about, not for changing it.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sinestro would be awful and you know it.

Parallax (Hal) ZH would be perfect imo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sinestro would be awful and you know it.

Emma.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Not really. Though he does abuse his powers and position, he does kill. He doesn't get corrupted easily. Look what he did with his home world. Yeah, they were in fear, but Batman does it, and many other; then there is the fact that we human live in fear of death, breaking the rules..etc. What's a little more fear for those who break the law?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you're referring to Superman he's actually more concerned with humanity than most of his human colleagues. Krypton is anathema to him.

As for the Authority they've always struck me as temperamental, self-righteous pricks who would probably end up destabilizing the world with their extremely proactive methods. Most governments would probably see them as threats and conspire to destroy them which even assuming success would probably devastate the world.

It wasn't about superman speciffically, although he is one of many characters with this syndrome. He may not be a kryptonian either, and sometimes he is portrayed as having a total identification with humans and being more human than they are in a way, but to me, the take on mr majestic actually reflects what SM reallly is deep inside: an island onto himself, neither human nor kryptonian, infinitelly arrogant and distant in his charity, cut off from the gritty emotional reality of the beings he claims to protect and can't truly understand (yes, I know this is an extremization). But SM manifests this as total subserviance to legal and cultural bindings instead of doing whatever he sees fit, he doesn't want to compromise the development of the ants by imposing his will on them. Almot prime-directive like.

With his power he could change everything for better without shedding a drop of blood. Millar's own Red Son explores the other extreme of what a pro-active SM could lead to: happy fascism and pet humans, but it needs not be that way. Frank Miller's Batman said it best in TDKR2 when he called SM out for going in loops of logic to justify his inactivity while the real monsters and criminals ran the world from within the legally established power structures. One can rage against a despot without the fear of becoming one himself.

This thread is extremelly interesting because in a way it reflects what kind of superhuman the people posting would want to be. The question of what would you do with the power?

And I would be far closer to Authority and Dark Knight than to SM and probably consider his stillness criminal onto itself.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Saddam Hussein enforced the rules fairly well. If enforcing order and a willingness to kill were the only requirements for a good leader then Saddam Hussein should have been given control over the entire World.

To be fair though, what Sinestro did on his home world is something no other hero on earth can do. Look how much Superman, Batman, and the hundreds of other heroes struggle just to put people in jail only to make them come back a month later. Imo, they won't be able to hold the entire world using that system.