Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes one would come to such a conclusion if one was blinded by bias...........
Nope.
Replace Spider-man with any no-name person with class 15 ton+ Strength, super fast/agility, limited precog, and enhanced durability able to take at least class 25 blows (Venom) and even up to class 90 (Rhino) and that character would win.
Just because Spider-man jobs to peak human martial artists that otherwise couldn't possibly beat the character I described above, doesn't mean it would happen in a KMC Vs fight.
Indeed you'd have to be blinded by bias to think otherwise.
Originally posted by Placidity
Nope.Replace Spider-man with any no-name person with class 15 ton+ Strength, super fast/agility, limited precog, and enhanced durability able to take at least class 25 blows (Venom) and even up to class 90 (Rhino) and that character would win.
Originally posted by Placidity
Just because Spider-man jobs to peak human martial artists that otherwise couldn't possibly beat the character I described above, doesn't mean it would happen in a KMC Vs fight.
Originally posted by Placidity
Indeed you'd have to be blinded by bias to think otherwise.
It a fact spiderman has trouble with skilled MA's. Now he facing a group who have spent years fighting and training side by side to boot. Then add in all there crazy tech like sonic attacks and it makes spiderman chance of winning very minimal for any type of majority.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Spider-Man stomp.A normal Spider-Man, in this scenario would stomp too.
C'mon! He's like 20 tonners, faster, more agile, and have precog.
So, that means that while Bat isn't going to touch him, Spider-Man will decapitate him with one punch, when he'll hit's him.
Yea becuase Spiderman punches people heads off all the time right 🙄 . Yea and Spidermans never been hit by street level guys right like taskmaster, Capt DD ect.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Whats your point? Batman has taken punches from individual vastly stronger then rhino, so your points rather mute.
PIS. Any human taking a direct hit from a Class 90 and not have his internal structure destroyed is PIS. No two ways about it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
His speed is nothing beyond anyone of the bat trio can't keep up, and they hit people much faster then Spiderman.
Great, they can hit him. Spider-man has taken class 90 punches. What is a peak human punch going to do to him?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That fact is he consistently has trouble with skilled MA's. This is a fact and know about of bias wishing is going to change this. We don't go how you wish that character is represented, we go by how he is actually shown on pannel.
Jobbing, PIS - Unless you can explain why he regularly takes class 25+ ton blows from Venom and Rhino etc who can casually punch through steel and brick walls, yet he would get hurt by a peak human punch. Explain.
Originally posted by Placidity
PIS. Any human taking a direct hit from a Class 90 and not have his internal structure destroyed is PIS. No two ways about it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Great, they can hit him. Spider-man has taken class 90 punches. What is a peak human punch going to do to him?
Also you do realises they have items such as sonic blasts, bombs ect.......
Originally posted by Placidity
Jobbing, PIS - Unless you can explain why he regularly takes class 25+ ton blows from Venom and Rhino
Most of them are glancing blows, and Batman does the same shit, it simply bias on your part.
Originally posted by Placidity
etc who can casually punch through steel and brick walls, yet he would get hurt by a peak human punch. Explain.
Originally posted by BattlehammerA bullet proof suit doesn't protect you from massive impacts such as a hit from a class 90 or give it a try grab a bullet proove vest and then jump toward a truck. After that come back and share your experience with us 🙂
Your a hypcorite and prove your bias right here. It fine to uses Spiderman take class 90 hits the same spiderman who does not even have closes to bullet proof durability, but Batman who suit is highly bullet proof other wise more durable can't and is pis? cpuld you be anymore of a hypocrite or bias?
btw please point out who has over class 10 strength from his rogue gallery
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Originally posted by Parmaniac
A bullet proof suit doesn't protect you from massive impacts such as a hit from a class 90 or give it a try grab a bullet proove vest and then jump toward a truck. After that come back and share your experience with us 🙂btw please point out who has over class 10 strength from his rogue gallery
http://schvetbandits.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/batman619-villains-poster.jpg
Why would I need to? he fought people like Grundy in h2h combat. also clay face is well over a class 10
Though to be honest neither should take class 90 hits, I am simply saying to uses spiderman taking class 90 shots as evidences that the street level can't hurt him is friggin absurd. That is the vast minority of his feats that are not even shown as consistent and on top of it all Batmans done the same thing.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Your a hypcorite and prove your bias right here. It fine to uses Spiderman take class 90 hits the same spiderman who does not even have closes to bullet proof durability, but Batman who suit is highly bullet proof other wise more durable can't and is pis? cpuld you be anymore of a hypocrite or bias?
Nope. You are just stupid. Getting hurt by bullets is not the same as tanking blunt force trauma. Even WW who can take Superman's punches gets hurt by sharp objects.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
And batman taken over a class 100 punch before what a clas 10 gunna do to him? your logic is absurd.
Batman taking a class 100 punch? And you are saying its not PIS he survives? Troll much? You are absurd.
Originally posted by BattlehammerMost of them are glancing blows, and Batman does the same shit, it simply bias on your part
Glancing blows rofl. You do know Spider-man has been fighting Class 25+ tons in his whole history? Batman does not do the same shit.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Becuase it a comic and his durbaility is not that high. It more logical for street levelers to hurt him then he is to be taking class 90 hits. His durability is not even bullet proof or closes to it.
I'm sure thats what you want to believe, too bad it doesn't make it true since his entire history says otherwise. Again Penetrating trauma is a totally different story from blunt force trauma.
Originally posted by Placidity
Nope. You are just stupid. Getting hurt by bullets is not the same as tanking blunt force trauma. Even WW who can take Superman's punches gets hurt by sharp objects.
Originally posted by Placidity
Batman taking a class 100 punch? And you are saying its not PIS he survives? Troll much? You are absurd.
Originally posted by Placidity
Glancing blows rofl. You do know Spider-man has been fighting Class 25+ tons in his whole history? Batman does not do the same shit.
Originally posted by Placidity
I'm sure thats what you want to believe, too bad it doesn't make it true since his entire history says otherwise. Again Penetrating trauma is a totally different story from blunt force trauma.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not at all. Batman suit is designed for blunt force truama such as massive falls and so forth. WW durablity is for sharp objects as well that a misconeption that she not bullet proof.
Lol Hypocrite much? First you say Batman can take Class 100 punches, then you say neither should, and then now you are saying he can again, and then in the same post you say he can't.
And yes, penetrating trauma is not the same as blunt force trauma, deal with it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Your bias beyond belief. I am using your shitty ass logic. It pathetic that you can't even see how rediculous it is for Spiderman to be doing the same thing. You are picking and choosing what showings you allow. Niehter should tank closes to 100 class shots.
Lol, lets stick to Class 25 ton, it makes no difference here against peak humans.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes and did you know many times he been taken out by a shot or two or only taken glancign blows. I own almost every one of his apearances I know his history well. Do you know Batman been doing the same shit but even longer?
Oh so you don't want to use high showings, but you want to use low showings? I see how this works. And hell no Batman has not been doing the same shit longer. Batman would get wtfpwned by Venom.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Batman entire history says other wises as well. Your absurd. He conssitently shown to be hurt by street level MA's this is a fact and far more consistent then him taking class 90 shots or closes to it.
Lol, weak. You are just using trying to specify "Class 100" as some sort of argument. Firstly I never said class 100, Rhino I said was Class 90. Secondly, even if you discount Class 90, Spider-man has at least been tanking Class 25 tons blows his whole life and you are trying to tell me its more logical that he gets hurt by a peak human punch.
You don't have a real reply do you? Just keep bringing up instances of PIS and jobbing to Martial artists. Explain how someone who regularly takes Class 25+ tons blows would get hurt by a peak human punch. If you can't do this then I accept your concession.
Originally posted by Placidity
Lol Hypocrite much? First you say Batman can take Class 100 punches, then you say neither should, and then now you are saying he can again, and then in the same post you say he can't.And yes, penetrating trauma is not the same as blunt force trauma, deal with it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Lol, lets stick to Class 25 ton, it makes no difference here against peak humans.
Originally posted by Placidity
Oh so you don't want to use high showings, but you want to use low showings? I see how this works. And hell no Batman has not been doing the same shit longer. Batman would get wtfpwned by Venom.
Spiderman does get wtf pwn by venom whats your point?
Originally posted by Placidity
Lol, weak. You are just using trying to specify "Class 100" as some sort of argument. Firstly I never said class 100, Rhino I said was Class 90. Secondly, even if you discount Class 90, Spider-man has at least been tanking Class 25 tons blows his whole life and you are trying to tell me its more logical that he gets hurt by a peak human punch.
Originally posted by Placidity
You don't have a real reply do you? Just keep bringing up instances of PIS and jobbing to Martial artists. Explain how someone who regularly takes Class 25+ tons blows would get hurt by a peak human punch. If you can't do this then I accept your concession.
He also does not regularly tank class 25 blows, for **** sakes venom has KO him in a single hit before.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I love how you call it pis. He shown consistently that MA's can hurt him this has been true since day one. Your arguement is rediculous. You wish to ignore the thing you dislike about his past encounters and only uses his highest of showings while calling Batman showings as PIS, your jsut hypocrite with spidermna blinders on.
Right, according to you Spider-man taking hits from Venom regularly is his highest showing (just a few posts ago it taking hit from Class 90 was PIS, apparently Spider-man taking class 25 ton hits is ALSO PIS), and is equivalent to Batman taking Class 100 blows. Okay, stop trolling please.
Great so you can't explain how he tanks super strength blows from his rogues gallery, yet would be hurt by a mere peak human punch? Thought so. You lose.
Originally posted by Placidity
Right, according to you Spider-man taking hits from Venom regularly is his highest showing (just a few posts ago it taking hit from Class 90 was PIS, apparently Spider-man taking class 25 ton hits is ALSO PIS), and is equivalent to Batman taking Class 100 blows. Okay, stop trolling please.Great so you can't explain how he tanks super strength blows from his rogues gallery, yet would be hurt by a mere peak human punch? Thought so. You lose.
He does not even tank them I can post pics of him getting taking out from single shots form venom. I dont loses anything for everyone of thoses scans there 50 of these's
it call consistency son.