Originally posted by 753
so if the hulk beats on thanos for hours and thanos doesn't fight back he is not getting damaged?It's not just the number of powers it's their level and their usefullness.
evolving/devolving matter creation and manipulation and precog are all excelent assets in a battle.His levels vary too much, but going by high showings and 'optimal levels' I doubt Thor could really take him down.
Hours? The Savage Hulk annihilated him in 5 punches. He also used a great deal of his power to barely defeat the Gray Hulk.
What usefulness would they have against Thanos if he hasn't shown anything with them, that would suggest he can use them to defeat him? Matter manipulation is great. Isn't his greatest feat in that regard creating an Omnium cage to trap the Avengers that Hercules, and the Gray Hulk broke out of? At least that's the most impressive feat that comes to my mind.
Show him evolving or devolving someone on Thanos' level on the fly. Has even done that in battle against anyone of note? I can't think of anything off the top of my head at least.
Precognition only gets you so far. It didn't stop him from being downed by a punch from Thor or all the other times, his been hit or attacked.
What high showings/optimal levels does he have that trumps Thor's or show that he can beat him? Excluding prep.
So what? Classic Thor has knocked a lot of people above his weight class on their ass. That don't mean dick. H.E. treated Thor like nothing more then a annoyance when they fought. I thought it was pretty clear who the more powerful of the two was.
As for the Hulk thing, that was a highly enraged gray Hulk iirc. H.E. blasted him far away and laid his ass out. And iirc, H.E. has further evolved himself since then. He's more powerful now. Dude can amp himself practically anytime he wants.
Originally posted by dmills
So what? Classic Thor has knocked a lot of people above his weight class on their ass. That don't mean dick. H.E. treated Thor like nothing more then a annoyance when they fought. I thought it was pretty clear who the more powerful of the two was.As for the Hulk thing, that was a highly enraged gray Hulk iirc. H.E. blasted him far away and laid his ass out. And iirc, H.E. has further evolved himself since then. He's more powerful now. Dude can amp himself practically anytime he wants.
How did the High Evolutionary seem clearly more powerful than Thor? His win came far from easy, and it only happened because Thor stopped fighting.
Unfortunately the High Evolutionary was never portrayed as above or beyond Thor. As a matter of fact, the Karnivor/Man Beast fights would say otherwise.
He was definitely pretty angry, but that's about it. Of course it's the Grey Hulk so it's not as obvious when his berserk. His first blast was a plasma beam that should have rendered the Hulk into his component electrical charges but it didn't even do so much as scorch him (Further proof that his powers, as many as there are, would probably do nothing to Thanos.). Then the High Evolutionary cranked it up a notch, and defeated him by blasting him into the land far above. Although like he said, it took a great deal of his energy. Captain America even said he was looking peaked.
When? Even back during the Black Galaxy arc, he stated he had reached his limits. I might have just missed it, but I'd like to see some evidence to this. When has he shown he can simply evolve himself any time he wants to make himself more powerful. I've definitely never seen that before.
I honestly don't understand where this High Evolutionary wanking is coming from.
I wouldn't rank him above Herald level to be honest except maybe a rare instance or two and now people are claiming his above Skyfather level when he wants to be?
Damn, I really missed some impressive High Evolutionary feats.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I honestly don't understand where this High Evolutionary wanking is coming from.I wouldn't rank him above Herald level to be honest except maybe a rare instance or two and now people are claiming his above Skyfather level when he wants to be?
Damn, I really missed some impressive High Evolutionary feats.
Of course it must be that you missed them and not that they don't exist... right... right.... 🙄