Mxy runs the marvel Gaunlet

Started by Mr Master8 pages

Originally posted by 753

How do you know that only 616 had a surviving population of mutants?
They've been stated to be more than 198 in 616 too,
that was just an initial figure.


Originally posted by Omega Vision

I'm pretty sure Mutants still exist in alternate Universes after M-Day.


Actually as I clearly stated in my post,
it was across all Timelines.

So no, there weren't any other 'alternate' anythings around.

Wanda's spell was cast across the entire Omniverse.
(for those who do not understand what "All Timelines" means)

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ExodusCloak, & Galan did some awesome research
on how technical Wanda was in this feat,
and there's a detail analysis of Wanda's control of her power which she definitely had.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425178&pagenumber=5

I also indulged this thread and added some extra info on Wanda the God.

I think we're having a comunication problem here. We don't seem to be talking about the same thing.

What does it matter if it was an omniversal warp? How do you know that only 616 had mutants lef in it? Even if the spell swept across all timelines, if it did no entirly wipe mutants out in 616, how do you know it did in the others? The warp is said to have wiped out 90% of mutants in 616 and there were more than 198 left in it.

I've actually remembered just now, that during endangered species story arc, beast sees alternate versions of himself and others trying to reverse the warp, so there were mutants left in other realities as well. The astonishing x-men series also shows some realities where the x gene is not located in the same chromosome as in 616 and they were not affected by the warp. The mutants from the invading reality that forge was fighting were like that.

Originally posted by 753

I think we're having a comunication problem here.
We don't seem to be talking about the same thing.


I have no problems friend, I'm only conveying Marvel comic facts.
Originally posted by 753

What does it matter if it was an omniversal warp? How do you know that only 616 had mutants lef in it? Even if the spell swept across all timelines, if it did no entirly wipe mutants out in 616, how do you know it did in the others? The warp is said to have wiped out 90% of mutants in 616 and there were more than 198 left in it.


The warp nullified the mutant gene, 90% were affected,
and the effect took place across all Timelines, not just 616.
Originally posted by 753

I've actually remembered just now, that during endangered species story arc, beast sees alternate versions of himself and others trying to reverse the warp, so there were mutants left in other realities as well. The astonishing x-men series also shows some realities where the x gene is not located in the same chromosome as in 616 and they were not affected by the warp. The mutants from the invading reality that forge was fighting were like that.


No one said there were no mutants left, in 616 or otherwise.
Wanda purposely allowed 10% of the gene to stay in existence across the Omniverse.

The feat is being brought up to highlight Wanda's meticulous control of her power,
when someone fallaciously stated Wanda didn't know what she was doing.

That aside:

The monster is the fact that she tore the Omniverse to pieces
while simultaneously remaking 616 in her image, (58163)
she then rebuilt the Omniverse back to normality with a thought,
whle simultaneously also re-arranging 58163 back into 616
while also nullifying the mutant gene from 90% of the race across the Omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Wanda purposely allowed 10% of the gene to stay in existence across the Omniverse.

"No more mutants...except 10%."

Just wondering, where did it say she did it on purpose?

Originally posted by Mindset

"No more mutants...except 10%."


... heh ...
Originally posted by Mindset

Just wondering, where did it say she did it on purpose?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425178&pagenumber=5

It's all explained here, the link starts the flow of info,
but you have to follow through till the end of the thread.

(It wasn't a literal quote btw,
but it is what she wanted when we piece together Beast's findings
and his conversations with Wanda post-HOM)

Originally posted by Mr Master
... heh ...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425178&pagenumber=5

It's all explained here, the link starts the flow of info,
but you have to follow through till the end of the thread.

Well, I guess I'll never know. 🙂

I wanted to know too.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have no problems friend, I'm only conveying Marvel comic facts.

The warp nullified the mutant gene, 90% were affected,
and the effect took place across all Timelines, not just 616.

No one said there were no mutants left, in 616 or otherwise.
Wanda purposely allowed 10% of the gene to stay in existence across the Omniverse.

The feat is being brought up to highlight Wanda's meticulous control of her power,
when someone fallaciously stated Wanda didn't know what she was doing.

That aside:

The monster is the fact that she tore the Omniverse to pieces
while simultaneously remaking 616 in her image, (58163)
she then rebuilt the Omniverse back to normality with a thought,
whle simultaneously also re-arranging 58163 back into 616
while also nullifying the mutant gene from 90% of the race across the Omniverse.

This is what you originally stated in a post in the last page:

"Wanda consciously rebuilt the Omniverse and nullified the mutant gene across all Timelines, leaving only 198 mutants across the Omniverse."

That is what I was questioning when I asked: "How do you know that only 616 had a surviving population of mutants?"

However, she did not wipe out 90% of all the mutants of the omniverse, because in some realities, mutant genes were located in different chromosomes and they escaped the warp - she is not omniscient after all and would have no way of knowing it. It is, however, safe to assume that in every reality where mutants were similar enough to the one from 616 to be affected by the warp she succeeded in depowering 90% of them. I never questioned the scale of her power by the way.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Now sorry,
but it is a fact that Mxy's feat took place in a comic that exhibits "imaginary stories"
(as in they're not really canon) not saying they are or aren't, just saying.
It's also a fact that several Elseworlds stories aside from WF are canon. It's also a fact that many of the realities/universes/timelines Mxy and Bat-Mite visited during that comic are not only canon themselves, but they are also singular (ie. only one of them throughout the whole of DC.) Now don't get me wrong, I understand people being skeptical of the canonicity of that story -- but the bottom line is there is a plethora of evidence pointing to WF being canon, and pretty much nothing (aside from personal opinion) to say otherwise.