Originally posted by Starscream MMost of them? Which 5 are Superman clones exactly?
no they aren'tmost of them are just superman clones. thor adds some versatility but then hulk's lack of versatility drags down their overall versatility.
but overall the two teams are pretty damn close in versatility.
Hulk is 1 of 8 characters. Meanwhile, on the same team, we have Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Extremis Ironman, Sentry....
The other team is actually mostly (or, really, entirely) Superman clones. This doesn't make them close in versatility at all.
BRB momentarily teleports the others away as Black Bolt focuses a scream into Mjolnir, which Thor in turn amplifies and unleashes omnidirectionally. The others then port back in an battle the staggered Supermen to gain an advantage.
From that point forward I'm not sure who'd win, but both sides would have casualties. Particularly Ironman. Leaning more towards the Kryptonians in a war of attrition.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Most of them? Which 5 are Superman clones exactly?Hulk is 1 of 8 characters. Meanwhile, on the same team, we have Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Extremis Ironman, Sentry....
The other team is actually mostly (or, really, entirely) Superman clones. This doesn't make them close in versatility at all.
More versatile than superman: Thor
About same level of versatility: BRB, Blackbolt
Superman clones: gladiator, sentry, hyperion
Less versatile than Superman: Iron Man, Hulk
it seems like overall, team 1 isn't a great deal more versatile by any means.
Originally posted by Starscream M
More versatile than superman: ThorAbout same level of versatility: BRB, Blackbolt
Superman clones: gladiator, sentry, hyperion
Less versatile than Superman: Iron Man, Hulk
it seems like overall, team 1 isn't a great deal more versatile by any means.
That's because you underestimate the versality of the fist... 😬
Well, if we're taking use of equipment on the battlefield into consideration, there are a lot more options for Team Marvel given knowledge of the locations of various resources and armaments all over Marvel Earth. The assault doesn't necessarily have to be direct on their part. Typically though, I believe most here simply assume that the opponents just leap into eachother swinging.
Originally posted by illadelph12yeah but how much would that matter when the other team could pretty much render the battlefield into ashes in moments?
Well, if we're taking use of equipment on the battlefield into consideration, there are a lot more options for Team Marvel given knowledge of the locations of various resources and armaments all over Marvel Earth. The assault doesn't necessarily have to be direct on their part. Typically though, I believe most here simply assume that the opponents just leap into eachother swinging.
Originally posted by Starscream MSo, you believe Superman to be more versatile than somebody who can manipulate matter (which in and of itself is more versatile than Superman), make energy constructs, control minds, control black holes, create anti-matter, amp physical stats, drain/control energy, along with all the standard physical abilities and his scream?
yes. do you know superman's?And I assume we're also talking applied versatility, as opposed to theoretical versatility.
There's probably more as well, I'm just listing off the top of my head.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, you believe Superman to be more versatile than somebody who can manipulate matter (which in and of itself is more versatile than Superman), make energy constructs, control minds, control black holes, create anti-matter, amp physical stats, drain/control energy, along with all the standard physical abilities and his scream?There's probably more as well, I'm just listing off the top of my head.
And too add to the list Mjolnir and stormbreaker have more wtf powers then almost any Superman could dream about.
Originally posted by Original Smurphyes, I believe someone who can do the following to be on par in versatitliy with black bolt.
So, you believe Superman to be more versatile than somebody who can manipulate matter (which in and of itself is more versatile than Superman), make energy constructs, control minds, control black holes, create anti-matter, amp physical stats, drain/control energy, along with all the standard physical abilities and his scream?There's probably more as well, I'm just listing off the top of my head.
- freeze living beings
- burn hotter than the sun
- seal reality warpholes
- build cities in seconds
- can escape even black holes
- read and absorb information faster than a supercomputer
- visually perceive things in slow motion
- super hearing
- micro vision, soul vision, xray vision, spectral vision
- mind as fast as a computer
- can control vibration movements to achieve various tasks
- tvo telekinetic abilities