Originally posted by Omega VisionNot everyone acted like dumbasses in WW Hulk they didn't use all methods available because he was their friend. Just like he didn't kill them when he had the chance.
It was a major idiot moment for Darkseid, I'm not arguing that. From Apokolips's perspective H/P was like WWH: a job fest were everyone acts like a dumbass. Desaad eventually did bfr DD but it failed because DD wouldn't fall to the Radiant on Calaton twice.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Not taken seriously by marvel. It was a joke aimed at one writer.
The joke is, she beat the real Thanos. Thanos being the punchline =/= not being canon. In fact, that misses the point of the punchline altogether.I don't even know what encounter between Eternity and Thanos you're referring to in Celestial Quest. I'm not trying to screw around with you on this point. I don't remember.
It is recognized by Marvel. It's a published canon issue. You wanted me to elaborate on why I found your views on Darkseid/Thanos ironic. I explained. You continue to rebut and invite discussion. I continued to respond. If you don't want me to respond anymore, then drop it.
You're right this has little to do with Kronos since you agreed that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before and that any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. I agree.
What you mean like he was running around for THOTU in Marvel: The End which came after the revelation in Infinity Abyss that he had previously used clones?
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It's not recognized so you can pout all you want it won't change anything.
You don't remember he was in the arc?
It's a published issue marvel doesn't recognize Thanos' actions in for the real Thanos.
Kronos isn't in the thread so your point has nothing to do with the thread. My point also still stands as it's not as easy as people were claiming.
The end was the last time he came into contact with powerful items or wanted them. He was also kind of selected for it because he was the only man for the job.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not everyone acted like dumbasses in WW Hulk they didn't use all methods available because he was their friend. Just like he didn't kill them when he had the chance.
Originally posted by Omega VisionHere comes the Darkseid lost so it's pis/cis. How convenient these terms are for you when darkseid loses. It doesn't count he can heal himself and oe DD into oblivion, right? Even though we have a writer state DD crushes Darkseid all day.
And Darkseid didn't call for outside help or attempt a sophisticated strategy to deal with DD because he was blinded by hubris and convinced that DD was all hype and just a mindless beast who couldn't threaten him. Its CIS/PIS in both cases to drive the story and ensure that both bricks (WWH and H/P DD) come off looking "tuff" and unbeatable.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Here comes the only a Thanos clone lost so it's not canon. How convenient these excuses are for you when thanos loses. It doesn't count he can be defeated and has lost before, right? Even though we have a comic state the real Thanos lost to Squirrel Girl.
Originally posted by quanchi112A joke with Thanos as the punchline. Right. 👆
Not taken seriously by marvel. It was a joke aimed at one writer.It's not recognized so you can pout all you want it won't change anything.
You don't remember he was in the arc?
It's a published issue marvel doesn't recognize Thanos' actions in for the real Thanos.
Kronos isn't in the thread so your point has nothing to do with the thread. My point also still stands as it's not as easy as people were claiming.
The end was the last time he came into contact with powerful items or wanted them. He was also kind of selected for it because he was the only man for the job.
You not recognizing it =/= Marvel not recognizing it. Don't project yourself onto Marvel. 😬
I'm asking when did he encounter Thanos? Been a while since I read it.
Sentence makes no sense. In any case, Squirrel Power > Thanos. peaches
And you also agreed with the point that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before and that any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. That point still stands as well, thanks for affirming.
The Squirrel Girl incident was the last time actually. Probably had a bad taste in his mouth from being duped and humiliated by TOAA. Though... SG probably left a worst taste. 😂
Originally posted by OneDumbG0To get to writer while marvel doesn't assert this as canon.
^ Fixed: A joke with Thanos as the punchline. Right. 👆You not recognizing it =/= Marvel not recognizing it. Don't project yourself onto Marvel. 😬
I'm asking when did he encounter Thanos? Been a while since I read it.
Sentence makes no sense. In any case, Squirrel Power > Thanos. peaches
And you also agreed with the point that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before and that any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. That point still stands as well, thanks for affirming.
The Squirrel Girl incident was the last time actually. Probably had a bad taste in his mouth from being duped and humiliated by TOAA. Though... SG probably left a worst taste. 😂
Why is it never mentioned in Thanos bios then?
You need to quit being lazy and reopen it. He's in there.
What sentence makes no sense? Not the real Thanos.
I never said he wad completely immune so you are confused once again and since Doom can't beat Thanos in prep it's irrelevant anyways.
Not canon so since he changed since then this further makes no sense for the real Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here comes the Darkseid lost so it's pis/cis. How convenient these terms are for you when darkseid loses. It doesn't count he can heal himself and oe DD into oblivion, right? Even though we have a writer state DD crushes Darkseid all day.
Darkseid clearly underestimated DD and DD surviving is less a strike against the OE as much as an insane durability feat considering in the very same comic Darkseid (once recovered) utterly annihilated Cyborg Superman who had previously stood up to the less than full OE as well as Superman's heat vision with admirable resiliency.
If its not in a comic, bio, or editorial statement it isn't any better evidence than a reader's opinion. No one gives a damn about Jurgens' lulworthy interviews. I go by what I see in the comic: H/P DD was virtually unbeatable and could adapt to pretty much anything and could only be stopped for good by sending him to the end of time to meet the one force he couldn't overcome: Entropy. With that in mind Darkseid losing to him isn't as much of a low showing as you make it out to be.
Originally posted by quanchi112Your inability to understand the punchline doesn't make it not canon. Just means you hate the joke.
To get to writer while marvel doesn't assert this as canon.Why is it never mentioned in Thanos bios then?
You need to quit being lazy and reopen it. He's in there.
What sentence makes no sense? Not the real Thanos.
Not every fight Thanos has is mentioned in his bio. At all. Just his major ones. Bios don't summarize every single appearance when Thanos has hundreds. You should be asking yourself why is it that every clone incident is mentioned and the SG incident isn't? (Clue: SG incident wasn't a clone.)
Yeah, the real Thanos. Sorry if you weren't aware. peaches
Originally posted by quanchi112Right, you would never say that because you agreed that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. See? We can unite in our opinions sometimes.
I never said he wad completely immune so you are confused once again and since Doom can't beat Thanos in prep it's irrelevant anyways.Not canon so since he changed since then this further makes no sense for the real Thanos.
Changed after Squirrel Girl's beatdown. I would too. 😮
Originally posted by OneDumbG0The fact marvel doesn't recognize this as being canon to Thanos doesn't make it canon.
Your inability to understand the punchline doesn't make it not canon. Just means you hate the joke.Not every fight Thanos has is mentioned in his bio. At all. Just his major ones. Bios don't summarize every single appearance when Thanos has hundreds. You should be asking yourself why is it that every clone incident is mentioned and the SG incident isn't? (Clue: SG incident wasn't a clone.)
Yeah, the real Thanos. Sorry if you weren't aware. peaches Right, you would never say that because you agreed that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. See? We can unite in our opinions sometimes.
Changed after Squirrel Girl's beatdown. I would too. 😮
I have never seen this mentioned at all and it goes against his character post hotu. It's not recognized anyways.
I never stated that it's an easy thing to beat Thanos with time powers and if it were as easy as some claimed so I guess you keep restating yourself for no other apparent reason here.
Not canon to Thanos.
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou cannot ignore a showing which is recognized in dc as being canon just because you don't like it.
I'm stating a fact: the Darkseid from H/P was a dumbass compared to the true character, a shrewd manipulator and genius who disdains direct confrontations and prefers to have underlings do his work for him.Darkseid clearly underestimated DD and DD surviving is less a strike against the OE as much as an insane durability feat considering in the very same comic Darkseid (once recovered) utterly annihilated Cyborg Superman who had previously stood up to the less than full OE as well as Superman's heat vision with admirable resiliency.
If its not in a comic, bio, or editorial statement it isn't any better evidence than a reader's opinion. No one gives a damn about Jurgens' lulworthy interviews. I go by what I see in the comic: H/P DD was virtually unbeatable and could adapt to pretty much anything and could only be stopped for good by sending him to the end of time to meet the one force he couldn't overcome: Entropy. With that in mind Darkseid losing to him isn't as much of a low showing as you make it out to be.
His opinion also backs up how he beat down Ds and how easy it was.
Darkseid did oneshot Cyborg after Superman saved his life and he gave him enough time to recover and cheapshot him while in battle with Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112Marvel doesn't recognize it? They didn't recant the publication of the comic. 😐
The fact marvel doesn't recognize this as being canon to Thanos doesn't make it canon.I have never seen this mentioned at all and it goes against his character post hotu. It's not recognized anyways.
I never stated that it's an easy thing to beat Thanos with time powers and if it were as easy as some claimed so I guess you keep restating yourself for no other apparent reason here.
Not canon to Thanos.
What's not mentioned? That their character bios do not list every single fight those characters have and usually just the main ones? That's just common sense. Go see how many of Thor's battles are listed in his bio. Just because certain of them aren't mentioned, doesn't make those battles non-canon. Don't make me patronize you. You are going nowhere on this tangent.
Right, while you were agreeing that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Don't know why you keep remarking on stuff you already agreed to in this thread.
Yeah it is canon. As Monkey Joe says: "Deal with it, fanboy."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0That doesn't mean it's canon for the real Thanos. If that's the case every crossover is canon because it was published.
Marvel doesn't recognize it? They didn't recant the publication of the comic. 😐What's not mentioned? That their character bios do not list every single fight those characters have and usually just the main ones? That's just common sense. Go see how many of Thor's battles are listed in his bio. Just because certain of them aren't mentioned, doesn't make those battles non-canon. Don't make me patronize you. You are going nowhere on this tangent.
Right, while you were agreeing that Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Don't know why you keep remarking on stuff you already agreed to in this thread.
Yeah it is canon. As Monkey Joe says: "Deal with it, fanboy."
This is a special case here considering everything I mentioned so please quit being desperate.
Again, someone claimed it's an easy thing to do but it isn't. Keep repeating yourself.
You can't even grasp what the reader is supposed to grasp so it's obvious I shouldn't expect any better.
^ It's canon to the real Thanos. It was confirmed on-panel. It was never retconned. You wish it to be, it never was.
Ha. Thanos' bio is a special case? Please. It's already retarded for suggesting that Thanos has no matter transformation abilities. Trying to advance a jaundiced interpretation of selected pieces of it while not recognizing it's global unreliability is a tragic comedy.
Right, someone else claimed it. And you agreed that even though it's not easy, Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Right.
Monkey Joe says: "Deal with it, fanboy.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0They don't have to retcon something not recognized as being genuine.
^ It's canon to the real Thanos. It was confirmed on-panel. It was never retconned. You wish it to be, it never was.Ha. Thanos' bio is a special case? Please. It's already retarded for suggesting that Thanos has no matter transformation abilities. Trying to advance a jaundiced interpretation of selected pieces of it while not recognizing it's global unreliability is a tragic comedy.
Right, someone else claimed it. And you agreed that even though it's not easy, Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Right.
Monkey Joe says: "Deal with it, fanboy.
So the whole bio is wrong? Is that what you are saying?\\Again, this has nothing to do with my point so why keep restating it when it just proves your a brick wall here.
Is that your imaginary friend or something?
^ It was genuine. It was confirmed on-panel to be genuine. Sorry you don't like the joke.
Don't straw-man me. The bios are unreliable. Period. For you to pounce on one specific reference, while ignoring their global unreliability is idiotic when faced with on-panel evidence. Not just that, but relying on what isn't stated in a bio is even more idiotic by another degree.
What are you speaking of? I'm just repeating how you agreed that even though it's not easy, Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Because I never advanced the notion time travel = insta-win for team 1. I only ever discussed with you those two conclusion, which you conceded to.
It's Squirrel Girl's pet squirrel, who helped Squirrel Girl defeat Thanos and as said several times, "Deal with it, fanboy." Should I repost the picture where you see Squirrel Girl and Monkey Joe standing over a defeated Thanos?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0It's not being seen as real to the real Thanos in marvel so no biggie.
^ It was genuine. It was confirmed on-panel to be genuine. Sorry you don't like the joke.Don't straw-man me. The bios are unreliable. Period. For you to pounce on one specific reference, while ignoring their global unreliability is idiotic when faced with on-panel evidence. Not just that, but relying on what isn't stated in a bio is even more idiotic by another degree.
What are you speaking of? I'm just repeating how you agreed that even though it's not easy, Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Because I never advanced the notion time travel = insta-win for team 1. I only ever discussed with you those two conclusion, which you conceded to.
It's Squirrel Girl's pet squirrel, who helped Squirrel Girl defeat Thanos and as said several times, "Deal with it, fanboy." Should I repost the picture where you see Squirrel Girl and Monkey Joe standing over a defeated Thanos?
You just claimed since one error might be in a bio the entire bio is incorrect which is ludicrous. The fight ended in a standstill and you denying that means you don't care about what happens in these books.
Which is irrelevant to this thread. Time travel doesn't equal auto win.
You are a strange one.
^ It was the real Thanos. Confirmed on-panel.
No. There are a litany of errors throughout all the bios. Furthermore, there are a litany of omissions. Trying to use such evidence to override on-panel instances is not just stupid, it's against the rules. Also, it's stupid.
Yeah, and Thanos has been utterly susceptible to time manipulation on-panel before. Thus, any notion Thanos thwarts Kronos' from using it is utterly retarded. Good job conceding that.
Stop flirting.