Mister Majestic vs. Dr. Manhatten

Started by Enyalus3 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He can recreate another body instantaneously.

Not really. Especially if his current self isn't actually destroyed, just dispersed across a few miles or whatever.

ive argued this already, as far as we kno dr manhattan could be anything from no more powerful than what we see in the book/movie, or somewhere between that and almost omnipotent. hell he probably hasnt even mastered all his powers. because of this, i have no obligation to back up my claims with anything other than my interpretation of how powerful he is.

tldr: his power is unspecified but is implied to be very powerful so i dont feel i need to back my opinions of his power up.

hes just a poor choice to vs someone because of all the unknowns

Originally posted by Enyalus
Not really. Especially if his current self isn't actually destroyed, just dispersed across a few miles or whatever.

Tbf to Manhatten, he was able to pretty much instantly create a new body when Ozymandias removed his intrinsistic(?) field and disintergrated him.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You just admitted to not even knowing who Majestic is, so why are you posting here again? Majestic's laser vision can block and rewrite photons.

Dr. Manhattan's body is energy, which is made of...*gasp* photons!


Patently false. Energy is really just a word used by scientists to refer to the capacity of a force to accomplish work. Photons don't "make up" energy as a whole. Besides he's not an 'energy being', there's really no telling what his body is made of but its not "pure energy" or some-such nonsense.

btw, im posting here because i dont think dr manhattan is *beatable*.

he has so many unknowns hes not worth vsing

Examples of DR. Manhatten's feats:
He blew up people with a thought
He rearragned himself from being de-atomized
He has "cosmic awareness"
He can create solib objects out of scratch
He can change his size at will
He is a being of almost pure logic
He said he can create life
He can create multiple himselves at the same time,not just images,more than one of him at the same time.

He is defintly strong and as far as we know he could be anywhere from juggs to galactus or higher.He might acctually be close or equal galactus.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Patently false. Energy is really just a word used by scientists to refer to the capacity of a force to accomplish work. Photons don't "make up" energy as a whole. Besides he's not an 'energy being', there's really no telling what his body is made of but its not "pure energy" or some-such nonsense.

facepalm Seriously, you're going to argue that Dr. Manhattan isn't made up of energy? Is he flesh and blood, then?

Why is it that Dr. Manhattan arguments can take intelligent posters and turn them into five year olds?

Originally posted by Enyalus
facepalm Seriously, you're going to argue that Dr. Manhattan isn't made up of energy? Is he flesh and blood, then?

Why is it that Dr. Manhattan arguments can take intelligent posters and turn them into five year olds?

What makes you think he is made of energy?After jon ostermen(manhantten b4 transformation)got disintigrated in the machine the comic specifically shows him as a walking nervous system then a skeleton then I think muscles.What gives you any idea he is made of energy?He has never,at any point shown to be made of energy.

Originally posted by Enyalus
facepalm Seriously, you're going to argue that Dr. Manhattan isn't made up of energy? Is he flesh and blood, then?

Why is it that Dr. Manhattan arguments can take intelligent posters and turn them into five year olds?


He's "energy" in the same sense we're "energy". But you made a lulworthy point with that "photons are the building blocks of energy" tripe.

Energy isn't something you can touch, see, or percieve directly. This is less me being a DM fanboy and more a grammar/science Nazi. 😮

@ enyalus: your attempt to falsely define the word energy is a misstep on your part.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/energy

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What makes you think he is made of energy?After jon ostermen(manhantten b4 transformation)got disintigrated in the machine the comic specifically shows him as a walking nervous system then a skeleton then I think muscles.What gives you any idea he is made of energy?He has never,at any point shown to be made of energy.

So he's flesh and blood then?

ur stupid. hes unspecified. hes made up of something that has never been classified as far as we know. hes also tangible, remember how he could sex specter?

He isn't nessicarily flesh and bood but he does have some of the key components of humans and is thus not a being of pure energy,unlike galactus.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
ur stupid. hes unspecified. hes made up of something that has never been classified as far as we know. hes also tangible, remember how he could sex specter?

No need for direct insults. Also DM most likely has absolute control over his physical form except in the case of the Intrinsic Field Substractor which subtracted his Intrinsic Field and *very briefly* "killed" him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's "energy" in the same sense we're "energy". But you made a lulworthy point with that "photons are the building blocks of energy" tripe.

There's nothing lulworth about it. Photons carry the electromagnetic force. Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces, and energy. Majestic blocks and rewrites Photons. He's also altered chemical compositions at a sub-atomic level (of an entire planet, no less.)

However you try to mince my words is irrelevant. Majestic ****s Dr. M up with his laser vision. The end.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/energy

Originally posted by Enyalus
There's nothing lulworth about it. Photons carry the electromagnetic force. Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces, and energy. Majestic blocks and rewrites Photons. He's also altered chemical compositions at a sub-atomic level (of an entire planet, no less.)

However you try to mince my words is irrelevant. Majestic ****s Dr. M up with his laser vision. The end.

Was it no you who said you don't know who DM is?!?!?!?!
Did you not read his examples of feats.I don't anyone except those in higher abstarct level could stomp him in any way shape or form.

Originally posted by Enyalus
There's nothing lulworth about it. Photons carry the electromagnetic force. Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces, and energy. Majestic blocks and rewrites Photons. He's also altered chemical compositions at a sub-atomic level (of an entire planet, no less.)

However you try to mince my words is irrelevant. Majestic ****s Dr. M up with his laser vision. The end.


Photon are carriers of visible light, one very small part of the electromagnetic spectrum. They don't actually hold mass but I read somewhere that when a photon strikes a solid object said solid object gains mass...somehow.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
@ enyalus: your attempt to falsely define the word energy is a misstep on your part.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/energy


Talron, I know you want to sound clever, so saying things like "attempt to falsely define" will make you sound like you understand what's going on, but in case you missed it, I never attempted to define the word 'energy', at all. Which is just the capacity to do work. Yes, I've had Physics 101. Thank you.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He isn't nessicarily flesh and bood but he does have some of the key components of humans and is thus not a being of pure energy,unlike galactus.

So, kind of like humans but kind of not. Mmkay.

Majestic rewriting Eradicator's "synthetic biology." By manipulating photons.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Photon are carriers of visible light, one very small part of the electromagnetic spectrum. They don't actually hold mass but I read somewhere that when a photon strikes a solid object said solid object gains mass...somehow.

Since I don't have any physics textbooks handy, here's wikipedia's answer:

"In physics, a photon is an elementary particle, the quantum of the electromagnetic interaction and the basic "unit" of light and all other forms of electromagnetic radiation. It is also the force carrier for the electromagnetic force. The effects of this force are easily observable at both the microscopic and macroscopic level, because the photon has no rest mass; this allows for interactions at long distances. Like all elementary particles, photons are governed by quantum mechanics and will exhibit wave-particle duality – they exhibit properties of both waves and particles."

So....here's more proof he can manipulate 'pre-atomic' particles with his laser vision:

It's worth pointing out that that's Jupiter, btw. 300+ times larger than the Earth. And he looks like he does that pretty quickly.

I would side with Majestic for the majority, but I am not convinced that he would be able to simply disperse Manhattan.