Psylocke vs Ironfist

Originally posted by dmills
Don't hold your breath.

@wildshadow?
If she's at that level then she needs one. Anyone here read her recent mini?

Originally posted by dmills
@Mindset,

Where ya been? I've been flying solo here.

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She's kept pace with Rogue using Quicksilver powers (which is already in this thread), and she was tagging a mutant speedster who was upgraded with "Wolverine level fighting abilities." She also knocked Colossus on his ass recently, her TK amping is above Danny's chi amping.

In terms of skill she beat Exiles Slaymaster (who is a super badass) in h2h despite being injured and she had a decent showing against Wolverine recently. I think she also beat the Mandarin before she died... but that is bs if you ask me.

fights both rogue and thunder bird II extreme x-men
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5425/psyspar3by3.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6263/psyspar4sp5.jpg

holds a space shuttle together during re entry..

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8426/tkshuttleov8.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/461/tklandingshuttlevv0.jpg

i found her respect thread in CBR some awesome feats if anyone wants to go through them and see what she can do...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/461/tklandingshuttlevv0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D200241&usg=__qq1nGH2kD745a5i5f_sQ0KSpQZo=&h=988&w=644&sz=820&hl=en&start=7&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=n9BGW86z563xlM:&tbnh=149&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpsylocke%2Btk%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't feel like looking up scans, etc.

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Originally posted by dmills
I must admit I didn't expect this one to go on for this long. Lotta Psylocke love.

the Betsy Ogun training/sparring..
thx to guy22 for the scans

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=485869&from=thread&pagenumber=1#post12587500

Iron Fist's power is Mystical, not psionic. It should work on her. It's called a mind meld but it's really more like a soul meld. I don't know why it's called mind melding.

his training may border on the mystical aspect but the result is still psionic in nature when it comes to the mind aspect.. either way even if it is not Psylocke is a highly trained Telepaths with mental blocks to Keep psi's from screwing with her mind she even has shadow king locked up nice and tight in her mind...pretty impressive i say.

but aside from that she also has mystic ninja training as well to help cloak her mind... it was the main aspect of her body transfer a life time of ninja training and a new body to boot.. i say that should help cancel out any chi type manipulation from another MA practitioner.

She also has strong will and i think IF only tried his mind soothing technique on a crowd of ppl who werent expecting it who have no training with fortifying the mind...it was just a hypnotic type deal to me i would have said it would fail against stronger willed ppl like bats or logan...

question did he try that technique on the wrecker as well while fighting over the crowbar?

also Dr. Strange also has mystic mind training can astral project screw with ppl's mind but he still has had trouble with none magically trained psi's in astral battles and mind reading..

also even nacturn failed to possess Betsy when Betsy consciously choice to restrain her inside her own body....

i think Jim Jasper made it pretty clear she is immune to such manipulation regardness type of energy.

Not sure about the wrecker, but he did use it on Coleen who is a highly trained MA in her own right. Of course Psylocke > Coleen, but that was well over a decade ago, he's much more powerful now.

Also, Mystical/Magical energy is different then other forms of energy, psionic included.

i havent read enough IF to properly argue and gauge his chi manipulation of others let alone seen him use it on a high lvl psi... but ur argument is more of an "if" then an actual known fact.. i would side with psi TP being superior then his attempted chi manipulation.. but that is just me not sure if jean froze him and all the x men in place when IF fought them but if she did that answers that question.

Agreed. I guess this thread has run it's course. See you in the next one.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
. I think she also beat the Mandarin before she died... but that is bs if you ask me.

She didn't. She was defeated and then Wolverine snuck up behind the Mandarin and popped two claws on either side of his head. Additionally, this was Mandarin back when his soul had been sucked into the rings, rendering him partially amnesiac and devoid of Chi powers. So Psylocke wasn't even a match for Mandarin-lite.

I am so happy at this thread, it has had a lot of looks and post.. i hope it doesnt die so soon. 🙁

keep arguing ppl... IF pees his pants and psylocke rips him apart... aaand go! argue ppl!! 😒

has IF ever fought the Mandarin? i dont think was ever to give logan or sabe the type of fight that psylocke has... she is a mean mamma jamma ninja b^&%...

Originally posted by VanMae
She didn't. She was defeated and then Wolverine snuck up behind the Mandarin and popped two claws on either side of his head. Additionally, this was Mandarin back when his soul had been sucked into the rings, rendering him partially amnesiac and devoid of Chi powers. So Psylocke wasn't even a match for Mandarin-lite.

Originally posted by dmills
@753
Just as he'll have enough time to smash the ground with a massive chi strike knocking her off balance. Or mind meld her.

Sure. He's just gonna stand there and let her stab him with a tp knife.

The only mind thing I remeber is when he hypnotized someone and when another IF used this ability to increase his tactical mind through IF (which danny never shown to do).

I don't think he has a choice. She can literally hold him in place, she could mind rape him. She also was able to amp her speed enough to keep pace with Berserker Wolverine and even land more hits it seemed. Thats rediculous given what berserker rage does to wolverine and what it means. It like days of combat compressed into minutes.

this last bit is not direct at dmills just general question, who was saying that Dany could move to fast for pylocke to react with TK......becuase that absurding rediculous and vast overestimation of Danny and a vast underestimation of psylocke.

Danny can use hypnosis, it showed him learning it from the book, iirc.

Although, he has never actually used it on a person.

Betsy could block his chi with her telepathy, or just make him think he's using it when he really isn't. Or launch him into the air with her TK and hold him there. Or just melee him and completely trounce him in h2h. It's all up to her really.