Originally posted by Wild Shadow..that is a stretch and a big one at that
if thor wasnt such a moron he use his body as a symbol of faith and flash fry Dracula with his presence..i say the dragon tattoo should be used as a shield of faith against dracula danny just has to believe in himself and the chi being holy and what not..
Originally posted by Wild Shadowagain you're making a stretch, if that was the truth all magic users and such would find taking out dracula easily, chi has never been stated to effect dracula, and you're going to provide proof it would other than your own assumptions.
nonsense all mystic martial artist should be one with the universe and what might pass as the creator...
Originally posted by Wild Shadowi know this was a joke but still, the only reason thor's hammer worked was because it once was a religious relic, ironfist's chi or fists don't fall into that category at all
IF uses his glowing fist as a religious spiritual item to fend off dracula since that what it really is.. 😖hifty:
anything can be used as a spiritual or religious item against dracula as long as the holder sees it as such.. it is why logan making a cross did not work against dracula and dracula told him b/c he doesnt have faith..
the fist should work if IF sees it as a spiritual total sum of himself chi/soul and all..
Originally posted by Wild Shadowthat's not true at all, and you're going to have to provide proof
anything can be used as a spiritual or religious item against dracula as long as the holder sees it as such.. it is why logan making a cross did not work against dracula and dracula told him b/c he doesnt have faith..the fist should work if IF sees it as a spiritual totalitarian part of himself chi/soul and all..
thor's hammer worked (statedo n panel) because it was once a religious relic.
and wolverine's cross didn't work because he had no faith, even then nightcrawlers cross, barely harmed dracula.
and again, you're makign a stretch with virtually no evidence, mjolnir is an artifact contrstucted by the gods of valhalla, ironfist's punch is in no way comparable to this. you can keep assuming it would work, but you still have no proof. you're comparing actual religious/holy items to ironfist's chi, just becuse it comes form his soul doesn't make it holy.
Originally posted by dmills..that doesn't make him holy, thors hammer, the cross, the star of david are all religious artifacts, and blessed items. ironfist's opinion of himself hardly makes him blessed/holy.
Wildshadow is right. Iron Fist does see himself and his chi as being one with the universe and mankind as a divine singular essense. Some new age stuff.
Danny's chi needs more worshippers!
Drac has withstood magic that is used and worshipped throughout the galaxy.
Danny's self worship in his connection to the universe won't cut it!
All holy relics and symbols work on Drac if the holder has faith.
Danny doesn't count and lets not make this a religious discussion.
@trackz
do you think a Buddha statue is holy and would work if used by a zen practitioner as a blunt object and threw it at him?
what makes something holy?
b/c ur opinion is just that an opinion many things have spiritual connection without it needing to be baptized or worshiped ,, and a religious item has no more power then how it is viewed compared to another set of spiritual belief which danny does have..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow...you do realize your assumption has absolutely nothing backing it? Notice that sif and thor himself had no effect on dracula, despite them being gods and being deities, notice apocalpyse had no effect on dracula despite being a worshipped being. No. Unless the artifiact is a BLESSED or HOLY item, it will have no effect. A blessed or holy item in terms of one that will effect dracula is that that has been blessed by a higher deity that opposes that of which created dracula.
@trackz
do you think a Buddha statue is holy and would work if used by a zen practitioner as a blunt object and threw it at him?what makes something holy?
b/c ur opinion is just that an opinion many things have spiritual connection without it needing to be baptized or worshiped ,, and a religious item has no more power then how it is viewed compared to another set of spiritual belief which danny does have..
Now unless you have any proof to back your claim, other than your own opinion, then I suggest you drop this point since its going nowhere. Dracula stomps danny.
Originally posted by Wild Shadowonly those deemed worth by odin may weild it, and odin is much more powerful than thor or sif. God doesn't outright bless every cross but since they pay homage, they are holy/blessed items. Other examples are excalibur. Ironfists chi is not akin to these at all, and you haven't rpovided a shread of proof for your assertion.
when the hell did Odin bless the hammer?!and what makes odin holier or more divine then thor or sif?
these are the list of ppl i think should be kryptonite to dracula..
Ironfist(one w/ mind, body and soul and chi being the total sum of such also one with the U mystic MA mubble jumbo)
Wolverine(God's Champion and what goes with such a title)
Juggernaut b/c he is blessed by a Demon)
Thor & Mjonlir( once was a symbol of religion hope, justice, righteousness etc etc..
any decent(good) God since most are fueled or once were fueled by man's faith and belief in them..
example: Balder
anyone with a strong faith or tied to a particular Deity..
Kurt
Kitty
Moon knight
Illuminator(obscure marvel hero, points if you can figure out who he is).