The Gorgon, Mister X, and Daken vs Cyber, Omega Red, and Sabretooth

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Death-spores are going to take X out as soon as he gets into range, so the fight is going to be 2 on 3, and as badass as Gorgon is I don't think can solo any combination of two of these guys.

also, would red even use death spores? he has to consider his teammates as well

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Death-spores are going to take X out as soon as he gets into range, so the fight is going to be 2 on 3, and as badass as Gorgon is I don't think can solo any combination of two of these guys.

Though Daken could be a problem sicne he can potential one shot anyone on the other team.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thats another thing as well I did not think about.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're forgetting daken

also, would red even use death spores? he has to consider his teammates as well

plus his team all have healing factors.

Originally posted by Starscream M
doubt red will use death spores...he has teammates to consider.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Does not matter how much faster I think he is. We saw what he could do. He tagged him straight up. Also much of it may have been do to the fact his TP blocker was up.

stonewall hit him as well twice.

Him taking red out right away seems a stretch, he not going to be able to read reds mind like he did wolverien and elektra. red never shown to be effected by tp or any mental attack.

Its a reason why I asked that and think about it, it was the last showdown between gorgon and Wolvy, of course they will let him hit gorgon, it wouldnt have been interesting if he didnt but that still dont take away from everything that happened before that.

Wolverine commented a lot about Gorgon speed even stating that he never fought anyone that fast and Wolverine fought almost everyone in Marvel.

Gorgon would WTF blitz red and on panel proof proves this. You are ignoring it. Red dont have the speed feats comparable to someone like Gorgon. I showed you him standing a mile away from Wolverine and running up to Wolverine almost instantly stabbing him. Thats out of Reds speed range and Gorgon is more than capable of using that speed in combat.

Show me a speed feat from red surpassing this....

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/456/gorgonvselektra2.jpg

or this.....

Cutting 6 men instantly....

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3632/gorgonvsshield1.jpg

Or this....

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2107/telepathy2.jpg

Or him moving at the speed of thought.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7757/telepathy1.jpg

Or this...

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2563/origin3.jpg

Hell, his bio even have his speed marked over the speed of sound.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9854/gorgonbio.jpg

Or this...

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2209/gorgonvssecretwarriors2.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5881/gorgonvssecretwarriors3.jpg

"No one is that fast" I wonder why everyone say that about him.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he can control them with rediculous accuracy.

It wont work on gorgon and he wont get the chance to use it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're forgetting daken

also, would red even use death spores? he has to consider his teammates as well

Everyone on his team should be able to withstand the death-spores for the five seconds it takes to down X. Not to mention Arkady as a great deal of control on the ability.

Gorgan is not going to be able to blitz all three of his opponents here.

Sure he's fast, but OR and Sabretooth as pretty fast too.

The only chance they really have to put Cyber down is to have Daken use the Muramasa claws, but then again, Cyber pretty much dominated Daken last time they fought iirc.

Also, X is going to have a tough time hanging with anyone on team 2, due to his very limited damage soak/durability comapred to everyone else on the field. + OR pheramones will screw X over.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he can control them with rediculous accuracy.

the opposing team also has good hf

Thanks for posting issues I have read before.....awesome....... and own........

Originally posted by Starscream M
cyber doesn't really have a good hf

the opposing team also has good hf

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Gorgan is not going to be able to blitz all three of his opponents here.

Sure he's fast, but OR and Sabretooth as pretty fast too.

The only chance they really have to put Cyber down is to have Daken use the Muramasa claws, but then again, Cyber pretty much dominated Daken last time they fought iirc.

Also, X is going to have a tough time hanging with anyone on team 2, due to his very limited damage soak/durability comapred to everyone else on the field. + OR pheramones will screw X over.

you're forgetting daken's pheromones will be affecting team 2 as well

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Gorgan is not going to be able to blitz all three of his opponents here.

Sure he's fast, but OR and Sabretooth as pretty fast too.

The only chance they really have to put Cyber down is to have Daken use the Muramasa claws, but then again, Cyber pretty much dominated Daken last time they fought iirc.

Also, X is going to have a tough time hanging with anyone on team 2, due to his very limited damage soak/durability comapred to everyone else on the field. + OR pheramones will screw X over.

None of them are close to the speed gorgon is so what you just posted is moot and I never said that Gorgon would blitz all 3, just Red since he is the major problem.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thanks for posting issues I have read before.....awesome....... and own........

I want you to show me something that make you think red can keep up with someone that can move as fast or faster than the speed of sound.

Originally posted by carver9
It wont work on gorgon and he wont get the chance to use it.

for starters I never said they work on gorgon and there no real reason to think they wont however.

second........whont get a chance to used them? based on what? How easy do you think it is to dropped omega red? Hell I don't even think other then his detah ive ever seen him get dropped.......and he been stabed repeatedly tortured for months on end, taken class 100 shots and laughed them off ect......

Originally posted by Starscream M
team 2 is gonna have trouble landing even a hit on Mr. X

you're forgetting daken's pheromones will be affecting team 2 as well

X doesn't need to be hit when the Death spores kill him.

And yeah, Daken's pheremones might be problematic for the team...

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to show me something that make you think red can keep up with someone that can move as fast or faster than the speed of sound.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
This is abusrd statement........

for starters I never said they work on gorgon and there no real reason to think they wont however.

second........whont get a chance to used them? based on what? How easy do you think it is to dropped omega red? Hell I don't even think other then his detah ive ever seen him get dropped.......and he been stabed repeatedly tortured for months on end, taken class 100 shots and laughed them off ect......

A stab to the head or eye should kill him.

Heres how I see it going down. Red's pheromones are going to take X out of the fight pretty quickly, so I'm thinking Gorgon vs. OR and Sabretooth and Cyber vs. Daken. Even with his pre-death heart weakness, Cyber should be able to hold his own against Daken while Creed and Arkady handle Gorgon. Team two should take the majority.

Also Red has used his pheromones to induce fear before, I wonder if Daken would be able to influence someone with a similar ability.