Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Kurt is good with a rapier but fencing is more of a sport than it is an actual combat. Against Blackknight he'd get taken to task. I don't think the third sword in his tail would shake Blackknight off his game enough to give Kurt the win.
Note that sport fencing =/= real rapier fencing. Rapiers are much more sturdy weapons than the ones used in sport, and very much designed for duels to the death.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Kurt is good with a rapier but fencing is more of a sport than it is an actual combat. Against Blackknight he'd get taken to task. I don't think the third sword in his tail would shake Blackknight off his game enough to give Kurt the win.
Yea black knights a beast, but what about taskmaster and new swordsmen?
Originally posted by Q99
Note that sport fencing =/= real rapier fencing. Rapiers are much more sturdy weapons than the ones used in sport, and very much designed for duels to the death.
Like jusitu is life and death fighting art, but judo is the sports version of it. One teaches things for sport and might beat jusitu fighter in a sport match, but if they fought life and death Judo guy would get schooled (assuming physically there the same and around similar skill levels)
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I think he ment the modern style of fighting.Like jusitu is life and death fighting art, but judo is the sports version of it. One teaches things for sport and might beat jusitu fighter in a sport match, but if they fought life and death Judo guy would get schooled (assuming physically there the same and around similar skill levels)
shut up idiot 🙄
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I think he ment the modern style of fighting.Like jusitu is life and death fighting art, but judo is the sports version of it. One teaches things for sport and might beat jusitu fighter in a sport match, but if they fought life and death Judo guy would get schooled (assuming physically there the same and around similar skill levels)
Yea, but Kurt actually does use real rapiers in real combat, so it's not the sport version at all 🙂
(Ironically, it's not rare for a judo person to have an advantage over jujitsu people, since they're just more used to the application of all their moves against resisting foes. But back in the day when jujitsu people would face real opposition, yea).
Originally posted by Q99
Note that sport fencing =/= real rapier fencing. Rapiers are much more sturdy weapons than the ones used in sport, and very much designed for duels to the death.
Hehe obviously. I still say the style lends its self more to sport and dueling than actually combat. It just strikes me as overly exaggerated and flamboyant. I like swash buckling gentlemen rogues as much as the next guy, it just doesn't strike me as particularly practical. Maybe I'm wrong.
Originally posted by Q99
Yea, but Kurt actually does use real rapiers in real combat, so it's not the sport version at all 🙂(Ironically, it's not rare for a judo person to have an advantage over jujitsu people, since they're just more used to the application of all their moves against resisting foes. But back in the day when jujitsu people would face real opposition, yea).
if you but perosn who trianed in jusitu vs judo practioner with similar skilll level and same physical abilities in a fight to the death the judo guy would die.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Just becuase he fights with them sometime, does not mean he was trained not in the sport form.
He's used them enough in real combat that he's no doubt adapted real combat techniques. There's nothing wrong with using sport as a base as long as you can break out of it and develop real combat habits. A judoka who adds a variety of non-sport techniques after combat experience pretty much has jujitsu.
Heck, the fact Kurt's using his tail shows he's made his own style to a significant extent.
srankmissingnin
Hehe obviously. I still say the style lends its self more to sport and dueling than actually combat. It just strikes me as overly exaggerated and flamboyant. I like swash buckling gentlemen rogues as much as the next guy, it just doesn't strike me as particularly practical. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'll note the stuff you see in movies and such is farther from rapier fighting than even the sport foil duels, you've probably never seen a real rapier fight, which like most real sword styles tended to the quick, brutal, and short.
A rapier is to stabbing what a katana is to cutting, optimized for the one task. Properly used, it is an extremely efficient weapon for killing people, one of the most on the planet. There's not a lot of the exaggerated stuff, there is a lot of going for a quick stab to the heart or elsewhere.
Originally posted by Q99
He's used them enough in real combat that he's no doubt adapted real combat techniques. There's nothing wrong with using sport as a base as long as you can break out of it and develop real combat habits. A judoka who adds a variety of non-sport techniques after combat experience pretty much has jujitsu.
Originally posted by Q99
I'll note the stuff you see in movies and such is farther from rapier fighting than the sport foil duels, you've probably never seen a real rapier fight.A rapier is to stabbing what a katana is to cutting, totally optimized for the one task. Properly used, it is an extremely efficient weapon for killing people, one of the most on the planet. There's not a lot of the exaggerated stuff, there is a lot of going for a quick stab to the heart or elsewhere.
Not surprised.