Namor vs venom

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus kinda tooled him in the first fight:

Venom has to be stronger than Class 40 in his larger incarnations.

And he still ended up choking on his own blood 😆

That's entirely possible. Didn't Worldmind warn Nova of Venom's "massive superhuman strength"?

That being said, he still got raped by American Eagle who according to Marvel Database is Class 15.

BTW, how many times Piotr yelled "Madness!" in Fraction's run?

Namor could take em all at the same time

He would simply get a bit dusted in the process

Originally posted by rotiart
Submariner vs
1. Spiderman during his symbiote days
2. Brock
3. Mac gargan
4. All three

they fight on manhattan after namor has just gottenout of the water
no further sea dips allowed

Why does spiderman have to be "during his symbiote days" -when Pete had the symbiote it didn't enhance his powers whatsover.

It's a common misconception. Stupid cartoon.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Why does spiderman have to be "during his symbiote days" -when Pete had the symbiote it didn't enhance his powers whatsover.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes it did...it made him far more durable and increased his stamina

NO IT DIDN'T!

Originally posted by BUSTER1
NO IT DIDN'T!

Originally posted by Starscream M
when he had the suit, he was basically bulletproof, plus he had more energy

Originally posted by Starscream M
when he had the suit, he was basically bulletproof, plus he had more energy

You obviously never read the Spiderman comics from that period. For a start, instead of giving Spiderman more energy, it left him physically drained. This extra "durability" you speak of didn't prevent Peter from dislocating one of his arms when he stopped himself from falling in his 1st encounter with Puma. I don't recall the costume repelling bullets until it was worn by Eddie Brock.

Originally posted by SamZED
That was Ult Spider-man. 616 the symbiote didnt physically enhance him in any way. Parker was just wearing it as cloth.

Originally posted by Starscream M
he manhandled rhino after getting it 😐

Originally posted by Starscream M
he manhandled rhino after getting it 😐

That was the 90's cartoon- it has no bearing on 616 continuity.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
That was the 90's cartoon- it has no bearing on 616 continuity.

it just showed how spiderman would be in modern era with the symbiote

So Spider-Man can't even lift a truck without an amp? 😱

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So Spider-Man can't even lift a truck without an amp? 😱

Originally posted by Starscream M
it was accurate though...all the characters were the same

it just showed how spiderman would be in modern era with the symbiote

616 continuity is what counts in this thread (the thread starter didn't say it was movie or 90's cartoon symbiote Spidey) and in 616 continuity the symbiote didn't enhance Pete's powers at all.
As accurate as the 90's cartoon was, it wasn't 100% true to the comic-the symbiote enhancing Spiderman's power was a concept that the cartoon gave birth too. Since that cartoon all film/tv versions of Spiderman, which have him wearing the symbiote, portray it as increasing his power.
However, as I have repeatedly said, in main 616 Marvel continuity, which is what counts in this thread, the symbiote had no more effect on Spiderman's power than the cloth version which Black Cat knitted for him.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
616 continuity is what counts in this thread (the thread starter didn't say it was movie or 90's cartoon symbiote Spidey) and in 616 continuity the symbiote didn't enhance Pete's powers at all.
As accurate as the 90's cartoon was, it wasn't 100% true to the comic-the symbiote enhancing Spiderman's power was a concept that the cartoon gave birth too. Since that cartoon all film/tv versions of Spiderman, which have him wearing the symbiote, portray it as increasing his power.
However, as I have repeatedly said, in main 616 Marvel continuity, which is what counts in this thread, the symbiote had no more effect on Spiderman's power than the cloth version which Black Cat knitted for him.

if spidey got the symbiote today, he would get boosted

Originally posted by Starscream M
the symbiote has evolved

if spidey got the symbiote today, he would get boosted

Do you have proof of this? I haven't seen any. The only physical effect I saw the symbiote have on Spiderman was making him constantly tired.

Pretty sure OP meant classic symbiote SM.

Yeah, it'd more than likely boost him now.

Originally posted by Starscream M
depends on the truck..some trucks weigh over 10 tons