Gamora vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Did i mention Magus? no. i am asking for ppl to either start making a roster of ppl she has beaten in melee combat who possess actual melee skills or start showing consistent skill applications against a fellow MA'er..

her not beating Magus is as it should be and yes, wolverine would fail to make an attack if magus just want to end it at quick as possible.

just like gamora would lose if she fought thor and thor just wanted to end her right on the spot... nice try though, thx for playing.

really, i dont know about gamora? i have damn comics of warlock from the 70's and 80's with the universal church of truth. i have the entire infinity watch series as well as the infinity war, gauntlet, crusades series and some modern electronic comics. i know exactly what i am talking about, i want to hear what you and others know.

i love gamora always have but, guess what she really doesn't have that many feats and your a douche for trying to scam everyone with a few inconsistent feats then try to pass it off as legitimate repeatable feats as if she can fight off cosmic beings without them lowering themselves to her lvl...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so why does she keep losing and if ronan is the best feat you got well logan has beaten and killed Gods and elder demons that surpass ronan's power lvl.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
But these examples weren't using their full potential 😖hifty:

Wolverine's form of attack exploited them.. where as hulk would have trouble with a low lvl demon who possess same lvl of strength and blunt durability, wolverine is able to slice and dice armies alone where hulk would go down and struggle with one..

fighting the elder demon is easier since it draws its power from its dimension where logan decimated its ranks scared the demons and was in a berserker rage where he was ripping and tearing the elder god and the elder god was doing the same to him.

but you see where this goes when ppl try to use my guy fought a herald lvl being, many ppl have. it is about context and how they each fight.

i already said both gamora and logan would get beat by thor, magus and any other herald being that isnt F#@#$ around or is hampered by CIS or PIS

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

as impressive as her surviving a jobbing ronan it is no different as wolverine surviving a CIS on thor who regonizes him as a comrad.

No it isn't because Ronan let out the big guns and Gamora was still able to carry on fighting. Thor took out his big guns and Wolverine was finished.

Originally posted by Deadline
No it isn't because Ronan let out the big guns and Gamora was still able to carry on fighting. Thor took out his big guns and Wolverine was finished.

So you are basing this off of one fight when we have evidence of Wolverine taking out Wendigo, Hulk, going to hell ripping through demons, busting through the entire shiar empire with it taking Gladiator to stop him, beating hercules twice, ripping through Thor. fighting the xmen, fighting Alpha flight, defeating Thing, walking through a Storm that possessed Thor powers attacks and not falling, taking down the brood, fighting WWH, hell, the list goes on.

Her one feat doesnt come CLOSE to what wolverine has done in the past. That feat doesnt hold any water here, you have to bring more evidence showing that she can handle him because going by your logic, Spiderman can also stomp Wolverine since he took out firelord or Black Panther can also stomp wolverine since he put Surfer in a umbreakable armbar. Everyone has their shining moments but it has to be consistent for it to hold any water here.

Originally posted by carver9
Everyone has their shining moments but it has to be consistent for it to hold any water here.

People can say about Wolverine what they want, but his list of feats is very long and pretty impressive.

Originally posted by carver9
So you are basing this off of one fight when we have evidence of Wolverine taking out Wendigo, Hulk, going to hell ripping through demons, busting through the entire shiar empire with it taking Gladiator to stop him, beating hercules twice, ripping through Thor. fighting the xmen, fighting Alpha flight, defeating Thing, walking through a Storm that possessed Thor powers attacks and not falling, taking down the brood, fighting WWH, hell, the list goes on.

Her one feat doesnt come CLOSE to what wolverine has done in the past. That feat doesnt hold any water here, you have to bring more evidence showing that she can handle him because going by your logic, Spiderman can also stomp Wolverine since he took out firelord or Black Panther can also stomp wolverine since he put Surfer in a umbreakable armbar. Everyone has their shining moments but it has to be consistent for it to hold any water here.

Thats not the only feat mentioned. Were focusing on this one because the Wolverine fans like to nitpick on this one especially.

Just the fact you said that this feat doesn't even come close pretty much shows your bias.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
True.

People can say about Wolverine what they want, but his list of feats is very long and pretty impressive.

Yeah because Gamora has shown herself to be consistenly impressive. Wolverine has more appearances doesnt mean hes better.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats not the only feat mentioned. Were focusing on this one because the Wolverine fans like to nitpick on this one especially.

Just the fact you said that this feat doesn't even come close pretty much shows your bias.

Its not showing my bias at all.

I could easily do this, WWH>Ronan and Wolverine did well against WWH.

Or I can do this, Savage Hulk>Ronan and Wolverine defeated the Hulk before.

The only thing that holds weight in that fight is Gamoras durability, everything else she did, I can see Wolverine doing if they went melee. She withstood his energy attacks, ok, that doesnt mean she would survive claw swipes from Wolverine. She blitzed Ronan, going by speed feats, Wolverine can blitz ronan also. She out fought ronan: Are you implying that Wolverine CANT outfight Ronan?

Then we have Wolverine supporters bringing up the Thor fight and you all are throwing it under the bus but accepting the Gamora fight: doesnt that seem kind of bias to you?

Again, going by showing (and Gamora has been out for a long ass time), Wolverine is still above her if we accept EVERYTHING and stop picking and choosing like you all are doing.

Originally posted by Deadline

Yeah because Gamora has shown herself to be consistenly impressive. Wolverine has more appearances doesnt mean hes better.

No one is saying that she isnt impressive but Wolverine is faster, just as skilled, just as agile, and has a healing factor that is better than hers and adamantium bones and claws.

Thats all we are saying.

Originally posted by carver9
Its not showing my bias at all.

I could easily do this, WWH>Ronan and Wolverine did well against WWH.

No he didnt he got his arse kicked.

Originally posted by carver9
Or I can do this, Savage Hulk>Ronan and Wolverine defeated the Hulk before.

Um I think he beat Hulk as a horseman of Apocalypse and im not sure if Hulk > Ronan when hes beaten Black Bolt.

Originally posted by carver9

The only thing that holds weight in that fight is Gamoras durability, everything else she did, I can see Wolverine doing if they went melee. She withstood his energy attacks, ok, that doesnt mean she would survive claw swipes from Wolverine.

Yeah it does because shes survived being stabbed by Wolverine in the heart and she wasn't even upgraded then.

Originally posted by carver9

She blitzed Ronan, going by speed feats, Wolverine can blitz ronan also. She out fought ronan: Are you implying that Wolverine CANT outfight Ronan?

How do you know he can blitz Ronan? Ronan has wrecked teams. Yeah I dont think Wolverine can outfight Ronan.

Originally posted by carver9

Then we have Wolverine supporters bringing up the Thor fight and you all are throwing it under the bus but accepting the Gamora fight: doesnt that seem kind of bias to you?

The difference is that if you look at Thors over showings he should own Wolverine. The difference is that Gamora has other feats that indicate she can take on people like Ronan.

Originally posted by carver9

Again, going by showing (and Gamora has been out for a long ass time), Wolverine is still above her if we accept EVERYTHING and stop picking and choosing like you all are doing.

No it doesn't.

Originally posted by carver9
No one is saying that she isnt impressive but Wolverine is faster, just as skilled, just as agile, and has a healing factor that is better than hers and adamantium bones and claws.

Thats all we are saying.

Wolverine is no where near as skilled as Gamora. You dont know what the **** you're talking about. Hes most likely not faster than her and shes has a HF to.

Originally posted by Deadline
No he didnt he got his arse kicked.

Um I think he beat Hulk as a horseman of Apocalypse and im not sure if Hulk > Ronan when hes beaten Black Bolt.

Yeah it does because shes survived being stabbed by Wolverine in the heart and she wasn't even upgraded then.

How do you know he can blitz Ronan? Yeah I dont think Wolverine can outfight Ronan.

The difference is that if you look at Thors over showings he should own Wolverine. The difference is that Gamora has other feats that indicate she can take on people like Ronan.

No it doesn't.

Wolverine is no where near as skilled as Gamora. You dont know what the **** you're talking about. Hes most likely not faster than her and shes has a HF to.

Yeah, he got beat up because his attacks did jack to WWh but it was still a decent showing.

What upgrades did Wolverine have during the time he fought Hulk as the horseman and thats not even the fight that I am talking about. Also, what makes you think Ronan is>Hulk besides versatility. Hulk would destroy Ronan if you took out BFRing.

She was koed from a stab to the heart and Wolverine did it easily. Again, you are using ONE fight to base your judgement on how this fight would go, I can use the Thor fight to out weigh the fight you are bringing up. What else did she do after her upgrade that puts her above Wolverine? You have all annihilation story line to help you with that question.

I know he can blitz Ronan becausae Wolverine blitzed people that are faster than Ronan, one example again is Thor. Show me a Ronan speed feat to change my mind.

I'm not overseeing anything on Thor, I'm a Thor fan, I know what Thor is capable of. The only thing you are overseeing is on-panel evidence which goes against everything that you are saying. People are making arguments against the Ronan vs Gamora fight so what rights do you have to argue against them if you cant accept on panel proof from the Wolverine side. BIAS

Ignoring on panel evidence. Wolverine has owned Gamora once and proved his skill and can you show me something that proves her healing factor was increased enough to prevent her from being one shotted again?

funny how Gamora as good as she is suppose to be was taken out by herc, Thunderstrike, giant man and a depowered cap.. and yet someone like Taskmaster fights the avengers repeatedly...DP also did impressively when he fought his version of them... Cap, herc, goliath, hawkeye, falcon...

nothing gamora has done yet makes her as skilled or more skilled then any of these others.. she may have a few pressure points that work on 100 tonner b/c of her own strength but thats it.. fighting herlad beings and surviving isnt that big of a deal if one is jobbing due to Cis...

Captain america has also squared of against gods and heralds solo does that make him faster more skilled then every other street lvler on earth? is he equal to gamora?

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, he got beat up because his attacks did jack to WWh but it was still a decent showing.

No it wasn't a decent showing he got Fed up.

Originally posted by carver9

What upgrades did Wolverine have during the time he fought Hulk as the horseman and thats not even the fight that I am talking about.

Every Horseman has had upgrades Wolverine most likely had some. When did he beat Savage Hulk?

Originally posted by carver9

Also, what makes you think Ronan is>Hulk besides versatility. Hulk would destroy Ronan if you took out BFRing.

Thats bullshit. hes got showings to prove otherwise (beat Ravenous)

Originally posted by carver9

She was koed from a stab to the heart and Wolverine did it easily.

Pretty much shows you don't know what you're talking about, she was distracted.

Originally posted by carver9

Again, you are using ONE fight to base your judgement on how this fight would go, I can use the Thor fight to out weigh the fight you are bringing up. What else did she do after her upgrade that puts her above Wolverine? You have all annihilation story line to help you with that question.

I know he can blitz Ronan becausae Wolverine blitzed people that are faster than Ronan, one example again is Thor. Show me a Ronan speed feat to change my mind.

I'm not overseeing anything on Thor, I'm a Thor fan, I know what Thor is capable of. The only thing you are overseeing is on-panel evidence which goes against everything that you are saying. People are making arguments against the Ronan vs Gamora fight so what rights do you have to argue against them if you cant accept on panel proof from the Wolverine side. BIAS

Ignoring on panel evidence. Wolverine has owned Gamora once and proved his skill and can you show me something that proves her healing factor was increased enough to prevent her from being one shotted again?

Listen you are wasting my time. Im going to explain one more time. Wolverine has only fought Thor once and Thors over feats suggest he would kick Wolverines arse.

Gamora may have fought Ronan once but she has other feats as well. She sparred with Thanos prior to her upgrade. Eventhough it was sparring it was still vicious (she dislocated Drax's jaw).

I really don't know if Thor is faster than Ronan.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
funny how Gamora as good as she is suppose to be was taken out by herc, Thunderstrike, giant man and a depowered cap.. and yet someone like Taskmaster fights the avengers repeatedly...DP also did impressively when he fought his version of them... Cap, herc, goliath, hawkeye, falcon...

nothing gamora has done yet makes her as skilled or more skilled then any of these others.. she may have a few pressure points that work on 100 tonner b/c of her own strength but thats it.. fighting herlad beings and surviving isnt that big of a deal if one is jobbing due to Cis...

Captain america has also squared of against gods and heralds solo does that make him faster more skilled then every other street lvler on earth? is he equal to gamora?

Yeah and when you look at her feats overall shes batter than Wolverine.

Depends what heralds Cap has fought doesnt it?

Originally posted by Deadline
No it wasn't a decent showing he got Fed up.

Every Horseman has had upgrades Wolverine most likely had some. When did he beat Savage Hulk?

Thats bullshit. hes got showings to prove otherwise (beat Ravenous)

Pretty much shows you don't know what you're talking about, she was distracted.

Listen you are wasting my time. Im going to explain one more time. Wolverine has only fought Thor once and Thors over feats suggest he would kick Wolverines arse.

Gamora may have fought Ronan once but she has other feats as well. She sparred with Thanos prior to her upgrade. Eventhough it was sparring it was still vicious (she dislocated Drax's jaw).

I really don't know if Thor is faster than Ronan.

When did Wolverine lose this upgrade when he stopped following Apocalypse rules? He beat Savage Hulk with a stab to the heart (sounds familar huh).

Ronan beat Ravenous? Ok, now think about it, think about the people who hulk has defeated.

Post the scan of the Wolverine vs Gamora fight.

What speed feats does Thor have that put his speed over Wolverines? Please dont put up him dodging blast because Wolverine has shown that on so many of occasions that it ridiculous. I'll be waiting for these feats. Let me help you out, go to the onedumb respect thread, you'll find all of the speed feats you want there.

Originally posted by carver9
What speed feats does Thor have that put his speed over Wolverines?

Just out of curiosity, are there any speed feats of Logan that comes to your mind that puts him clearly over Thor?

Originally posted by Deadline
Yeah and when you look at her feats overall shes batter than Wolverine.

Depends what heralds Cap has fought doesnt it?

Cap fought and stalemated Bloodstrike alone until thor arrived to try and defeat him.. i would comfortably put blood strike well above herald and gods easy...

Originally posted by carver9
When did Wolverine lose this upgrade when he stopped following Apocalypse rules?

He was mindcontrolled right? That can affect your performance.

Originally posted by carver9

He beat Savage Hulk with a stab to the heart (sounds familar huh).

As a Horseman right?

Originally posted by carver9

Ronan beat Ravenous? Ok, now think about it, think about the people who hulk has defeated.

Ravenous is herald lvl and Ronan has beaten Black Bolt.

Originally posted by carver9

Post the scan of the Wolverine vs Gamora fight.

You do it.

Originally posted by carver9

What speed feats does Thor have that put his speed over Wolverines? Please dont put up him dodging blast because Wolverine has shown that on so many of occasions that it ridiculous. I'll be waiting for these feats. Let me help you out, go to the onedumb respect thread, you'll find all of the speed feats you want there.

There are loads of examples to busy right now. Im not sure if they put him over but they are at least comparable.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
no she is not she is inferior... thats the problem logan has walked over more beings then gamora has faced in her comic career or could ever hope tp beat...

Thats bullshit you havent given any examples.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

Cap fought and stalemated Bloodstrike alone until thor arrived to try and defeat him.. i would comfortably put blood strike well above herald and gods easy...

Id like to see the fight and know who Bloodstrike is actually.