Alan Scott vs Hal Jordan

Started by namorsubby2 pages

I'd go with Alan, not only cause he very well may be the most powerful lantern, but because he's not even really a Green Lantern like the others, and for some reason I like him more because of it. 😉

Originally posted by Mindset
Well, Desaad is wrong.

Hal didn't create them, he couldn't even affect them with his ring.

Yes, he did create them. The 'not being able to affect them with his ring' was a ruse to cover up the fact that he created them in the first place.

You should actually read the story before you shoot your mouth off.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Now, did he actually create these wooden bugs or did he use existing material around him? I've heard of the instance, but never have seen it on panel myself.

What do you mean "used material around him"? It's possible he used some surrounding plant life or whatever (though that would pre suppose that an ALIEN PLANET had exactly the same type of wood as that of earth) but he still created them.

The story set up was that the Golden Age GL and Flash were going interstellar camping with the Silver Age GL and Flash. Hal's ring had picked out an ideal planet, but Alan Scott's ring jammed Hal's and instead directed them to another. See, Alan didn't really like Hal. He didn't respect him, so he wanted to take him somewhere to test him. When they get there, Alan creates a series of mishaps that Hal and Barry have to get out of using teamwork and ingenuity.

Hal figures out what Alan is doing, what he's done, and the above scene is him getting revenge. He creates the wooden bugs to mess with Alan's weakness. Hal's ring doesn't 'affect' them because he isn't actually trying to affect them...that's WHY you can see Alan wondering in that scan..."Why doesn't your ring work..?"...he's figuring out that Hal has figured HIM out.

So...yeah. Hal created that swarm, and you'd have to have serious, serious mental handicaps not to have been able to suss that out after having read the actual story.

Originally posted by Desaad
Yes, he did create them. The 'not being able to affect them with his ring' was a ruse to cover up the fact that he created them in the first place.

You should actually read the story before you shoot your mouth off.

Who would you say would win the fight?

Originally posted by Desaad
Yes, he did create them. The 'not being able to affect them with his ring' was a ruse to cover up the fact that he created them in the first place.

You should actually read the story before you shoot your mouth off.

Why would I do that?

How did Hal create wood with his ring? Was he using wooden plantlife from his environment or something, cause I had no idea he could simply conjure up any material he imagines......sounds like a whole new power.

Hal is the best..always have and always will be..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Hal is the best..always have and always will be..
You take that back right now!

there's nothin' lilke da old skool.lol

Originally posted by namorsubby
How did Hal create wood with his ring? Was he using wooden plantlife from his environment or something, cause I had no idea he could simply conjure up any material he imagines......sounds like a whole new power.

Hal can manipulate matter. Has many times.

Originally posted by namorsubby
You take that back right now!

there's nothin' lilke da old skool.lol

Alan Scoot time has ended long ago..and currently..he's dead..this is the era for Hal..the greatest of them all..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
the greatest of them all..

That's Sinestro's line!

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Alan Scoot time has ended long ago..and currently..he's dead..this is the era for Hal..the greatest of them all..
I see someone's read the latest issue of JSA(well, the issue before that).lol

heroes never stay dead......and when scott comes back, he's kickin Hal's ass.lol

but seriously, if this guy just makes whatever he needs to beat you, than who can beat him?

Originally posted by namorsubby
but seriously, if this guy just makes whatever he needs to beat you, than who can beat him?

someone who can do everything he can to a greater degree biscuits

Hal

Originally posted by namorsubby
How did Hal create wood with his ring? Was he using wooden plantlife from his environment or something, cause I had no idea he could simply conjure up any material he imagines......sounds like a whole new power.

He may have used wood from the environment, he may not have.

But if he created them out of thin air, it would be matter manipulation (air molecules into wood molecules), and that's a power that Hal has very often shown.

Originally posted by Desaad
What do you mean "used material around him"? It's possible he used some surrounding plant life or whatever (though that would pre suppose that an ALIEN PLANET had exactly the same type of wood as that of earth) but he still created them.

The story set up was that the Golden Age GL and Flash were going interstellar camping with the Silver Age GL and Flash. Hal's ring had picked out an ideal planet, but Alan Scott's ring jammed Hal's and instead directed them to another. See, Alan didn't really like Hal. He didn't respect him, so he wanted to take him somewhere to test him. When they get there, Alan creates a series of mishaps that Hal and Barry have to get out of using teamwork and ingenuity.

Hal figures out what Alan is doing, what he's done, and the above scene is him getting revenge. He creates the wooden bugs to mess with Alan's weakness. Hal's ring doesn't 'affect' them because he isn't actually trying to affect them...that's WHY you can see Alan wondering in that scan..."Why doesn't your ring work..?"...he's figuring out that Hal has figured HIM out.

So...yeah. Hal created that swarm, and you'd have to have serious, serious mental handicaps not to have been able to suss that out after having read the actual story.

Well, seeing as how I asked a legitimate question about said instance because I admitted I had yet to read the actual story or see the panel it was shown in, way to get worked about it. 👆

It would have been better if perhaps a scan was shown revealing that Hal had indeed explicitly made the wooden bugs, but as it was, the scan just shows the wooden bugs attacking the group with next to no mention or even allusion that Hal had done so anyway in the first place.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, seeing as how I asked a legitimate question about said instance because I admitted I had yet to read the actual story or see the panel it was shown in, way to get worked about it. 👆

The 'would have to be mentally handicapped' portion of my response wasn't directed at you. You hadn't read it, and were simply asking a question.

It's the others, making definitive statements about what did or did not happen that had that directed at them.

The explanation, though, was directed at you.

It would have been better if perhaps a scan was shown revealing that Hal had indeed explicitly made the wooden bugs, but as it was, the scan just shows the wooden bugs attacking the group with next to no mention or even allusion that Hal had done so anyway in the first place.

I explain the situation. If you don't want to take my word for it, fine, but it is what it is.