the MAC gun is pretty impressive- i dont remember what the exact power is.
edit- found it
These cannons fire a 3000-ton ferric-tungsten round at nearly 50% the speed of light, impacting with a massive amount of relativistic kinetic energy, which at 50% of the speed of light is of equal power to 9.98 teratons (nearly ten trillion tons) of TNT. No known ship, UNSC or Covenant, has been shown to survive the impact of one of these rounds. Against Covenant shield technology, the rounds possess enough kinetic energy to punch through shields, cut through the ship, and, upon exit, still retain enough energy to cripple or destroy a second ship.It is theorized that if a ship's armor or shields were to absorb all the kinetic energy of a MAC round, the release of thermodynamic energy would still vaporize the ship.
Samus' ship can move 72 times lightspeed, with using the warp drive, for one. It's taken a blast of interdimensionsal lightning, and hits from a Cyborg that breaks phazite with ease. Its missiles can destroy Maldium easily, despite the fact that it's considered indestructible by the rest of the universe.
One of the most basic of Metroid weapons (Screampaste got it) is the Volt Driver, a weapon capable of drawing from the planet's electromagnetic field. Its output is meaured in terawatts (ten trillion watts), which is also the unit to measure how much electricity the typical country uses. A single shot of the thing could power the United States for a year. This is considered rather weak.
Don't think that's the only one, either. The Battlehammer, for example, is powered by a nuclear reactor and fires nukes like a machinegun. The Judicator is another nuclear weapon, but uses fusion and reaches near Absolute Zero. The Magmaul, hydrogen fission, and fires superheated magma.
This is universe where Space Pirates wear armor that would be used for starships and vehicles nearly anywhere else (I believe the term was "ablative"😉. They have ships that can open Black Holes on a whim, and casually rip holes in space.
I still believe Metroid can at least compete with 40K.
Originally posted by The Scenario
[B]Samus' ship can move 72 times lightspeed, with using the warp drive, for one.
which is irrelevant unless she can fight in this mode as well ( she cant)
It's taken a blast of interdimensionsal lightning,so have covenant ships
and hits from a Cyborg that breaks phazite with ease.Its missiles can destroy Maldium easily, despite the fact that it's considered indestructible by the rest of the universe.
hearsay as well as a logical fallacy.
One of the most basic of Metroid weapons (Screampaste got it) is the Volt Driver, a weapon capable of drawing from the planet's electromagnetic field. Its output is meaured in terawatts (ten trillion watts), which is also the unit to measure how much electricity the typical country uses. A single shot of the thing could power the United States for a year. This is considered rather weak.
energy consumption =\= damage potential.
Don't think that's the only one, either. The Battlehammer, for example, is powered by a nuclear reactor and fires nukes like a machinegun.
The Judicator is another nuclear weapon, but uses fusion and reaches near Absolute Zero.
i wish people would stop doing this. "nuclear" is an indication of energy, not of destructive potential. simply being powered by nuclear energy is not an indication of its lethality.
and if you want nuclear weapons the covenant and the unsc has both got them in spades.
They have ships that can open Black Holes on a whim, and casually rip holes in space.
show me.
regardless none of this is overtly impressive. as i stated earlier technology in halo can wipe out all life in a galaxy, can rip holes in dimensions, travel through them, create pocket dimensions, manipulate time by extension, create planets, etc. a single round from a super mac gun has more destructive potential than the entire combined nuclear arsenal of modern day earth. and for the record i have played all of the metroid games... i know what the weapons are and how they work, which is why i know that theyre not superior. on paper and in the datalogs the guns all sound very impressive but if the damage potential of these weapons were nearly as powerful as they sound then the game would be much more different- enemies would be getting launched back thousands of feet from the kinetic energy generated by them, samus herself would be blown back, etc. none of that ever happens though.
edit- also you never provided actual feats from her ship itself, aside from its warp travel.
Originally posted by The Scenario
At the age of ~5, Samus could, without the suit, jump off of a cliff, land unharmed, and leave a crater in the ground. Around 11, she could punch through a robot that was immune to plasma (in the suit). Without the suit, she could jump maybe 30-40 feet. In Metroid Prime 3, she held open Ridley's jaws, while shooting down his throat. Ridley's jaws can crush starship armor. Again in MP3, she routinely uses the grapple beam to rip creatures apart, tear armor and shields off of opponents, pull locks off of hatches, etc.I don't have any concrete numbers, but Samus is pretty darn strong.
I wanted strength feats without the armor. 🙁
which is irrelevant unless she can fight in this mode as well ( she cant)
No, it lets her move much faster than, and outmaneuver the Covenant. They can't catch her.
so have covenant ships [/img]They've taken lightning from a dimension that kills upon entering it?
Show me this, please.
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energy consumption =\= damage potential.
But it should be a pretty good indicator. Maybe you'd be right for the most part, if it wasn't stated to actually fire that amount.
i wish people would stop doing this. "nuclear" is an indication of energy, not of destructive potential. simply being powered by nuclear energy is not an indication of its lethality.
and if you want nuclear weapons the covenant and the unsc has both got them in spades.
It is quite a bit of energy, however. I'm not where the rest of it would go, if it wasn't being used or vented somewhere.
How many of the Covenant's nuclear weapons are basically rifles?
regardless none of this is overtly impressive. as i stated earlier technology in halo can wipe out all life in a galaxy, can rip holes in dimensions, travel through them, create pocket dimensions, manipulate time by extension, etc.
I see. You're using Forerunner stuff, while I've been sticking to the low-mid tier Metroid weapons.
i know what the weapons are and how they work, which is why i know that theyre not superior. on paper and in the datalogs the guns all sound very impressive but if the damage potential of these weapons were nearly as powerful as they sound then the game would be much more different- enemies would be getting launched back thousands of feet from the kinetic energy generated by them, samus herself would be blown back, etc. none of that ever happens though.
I could make a gameplay argument here, but I suppose it wouldn't solve much. Suffice to say, cutscenes tend to be more powerful in Metroid. Take the Power Beam, for instance. Weakest weapon by far, and doesn't even faze enemies. In cutscenes, it'll kill a Space Pirate in one shot, and fling the body 20 feet back. The jumpball goes up maybe two feet, but in a cutscene, it'll blast upwards of 100. Elite Pirates can punch through forcefields Samus can't even scratch, and a Commander can backhand Samus across a room. None of this seems to happen, either, so until the weapons are used the scans are best we have.
I wanted strength feats without the armor.
That five year old jumping off a cliff was done without the armor, at least.
Originally posted by The Scenario
No, she really could. Given her ship and a fully powered suit, Samus could solo the whole damn Covenant. Metroid's power level is so far beyond Halo's that it's not even funny.
If she is still on that planet when they start the glassing she is done, she would need back up against the covenant to at the least keep their fleet busy.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I wanted strength feats without the armor. 🙁
Samus has been hit with ship based weapons before.
http://www.onemanga.com/Metroid/7/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Metroid/2/11/
There aren't many non-armor strength feats.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Yet she has firepower and durability on par with a Covenant ship. And her ship is better than that and is much faster.But that's not this topic, is it? Samus, with the equipment given in the OP, could not solo the Covenant, but would still win the war.
well that fact is kinda pointless since i never mentioned the ship..... 💃