Originally posted by Naija boy
Firstly the amalgams power output is nothing out of the ordinary. HAvoc and cyclops energy beams are not much compared to what thor and superman can dish out. Nextly colossus durability doesnt put u at a level beyond either Thor or superman. Wolverines HF is a nice touch but he can still be koed. Nextly speedwise superman is still just as fast and probably faster than he is so thats another place he doesnt have the advanage. Thor further cancels out any advantage that the amalgam would have via his energy manip coming from storm and magneto.So really with their combined attributes Thor and superman have this amalgam beat in almost evry category. (Adding surfer would just be murder as surfer by himself has this amalgam beat in practically evry category and then some)
Northstar combat speed is far faster than Supes and Thor. I dont know where you get the idea that it wasnt.
So having Colossus durability with wolverine healing factor, along with the adamantium UNDER colossus durability and Sebastians absorption power doesnt put his durability over Supes and Thor? I think it does.
Power out put, with magneto powers alone it would be trouble, then stack one hundred ton hits continuously with the optic blast, that would hurt.
Then we have someone who is extremely strong with adamantium claws and speed that is far above them. He would F*** them up and going by showings thor didnt do very well against wolverine adamantium claws and he is a class 2. 😕
Originally posted by carver9
Northstar combat speed is far faster than Supes and Thor. I dont know where you get the idea that it wasnt.So having Colossus durability with wolverine healing factor, along with the adamantium UNDER colossus durability and Sebastians absorption power doesnt put his durability over Supes and Thor? I think it does.
Power out put, with magneto powers alone it would be trouble, then stack one hundred ton hits continuously with the optic blast, that would hurt.
Then we have someone who is extremely strong with adamantium claws and speed that is far above them. He would F*** them up and going by showings thor didnt do very well against wolverine adamantium claws and he is a class 2. 😕
He is faster than Thor, not faster than superman
Collosus durability is a few leagues below supes and Thors. Wolverines HF and skeleton gives him a nice added advantage but he can still be koed. The combined durability of collosus and wolverine is not >Thor and supermans. With sebastiens powers he certainly wont be absorbing Thor and supermans more powerful hits.
Im not sure what comics u have been reading carver but poweroutput wise magneto is far less than Thor and is also less than superman. Cyclops and Havocs blasts will easily be absorbed and sent back to them with heavy interest (its not like such attacks would have much lasting damage anyhow).
The claws would be dangerous, but certainly not more dangerous than the high level attacks that Thor and superman would be able to rapidly dish out. Superman equalizes the speed advantage given by northstar and Thor has the advantage in the power department. Then add the fact that they have a numbers advantage as well and...thats all she wrote.
The belief that this amalgam was a skyfather is a rationalization that can occur only in ur mind carver.
Originally posted by Naija boycouldn't the super mutant just freeze their bloodflow for a cheap victory?
^If we add the other two heralds this should be closed for spite. Im still waiting for how the amalgam would beat silver surfer by himself let alone Silver surfer, Thor,Superman and wonderwoman all at the same time
Originally posted by Starscream M
couldn't the super mutant just freeze their bloodflow for a cheap victory?
As i mentioned in my first post both Thor and superman have resisted, Kinetic energy manipulation of their molecules (which is the way that iceman freezes people iirc). SO that is not likely to work too well.
Originally posted by Naija boy
He is faster than Thor, not faster than supermanCollosus durability is a few leagues below supes and Thors. Wolverines HF and skeleton gives him a nice added advantage but he can still be koed. The combined durability of collosus and wolverine is not >Thor and supermans. With sebastiens powers he certainly wont be absorbing Thor and supermans more powerful hits.
Im not sure what comics u have been reading carver but poweroutput wise magneto is far less than Thor and is also less than superman. Cyclops and Havocs blasts will easily be absorbed and sent back to them with heavy interest (its not like such attacks would have much lasting damage anyhow).
The claws would be dangerous, but certainly not more dangerous than the high level attacks that Thor and superman would be able to rapidly dish out. Superman equalizes the speed advantage given by northstar and Thor has the advantage in the power department. Then add the fact that they have a numbers advantage as well and...thats all she wrote.
The belief that this amalgam was a skyfather is a rationalization that can occur only in ur mind carver.
Equalize? I'm going to put up 3 scans, you wont find anything proving that either of them are close to Northstar speed, especially combat wise (go ahead and put up your space flight which is irrelevant if you ask me). I will be waiting on you to provide me with some kind of proof showing me that any of them are CLOSE to northstar speed.
Scan one.
Punching Sasquash 100 times per second.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-19.jpg
Punching someone a thousand times before he even got the chance to react.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_22.jpg
A on panel proof and statement that he can fight at the speed of light.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg
I will be waiting.
As for the rest of your post. Magneto>>Doctor Poloris.
For the rest of your post, Wolverine claws has ripped through thor, and easily. One hundred ton strength along with adamantium claws, along with light speed combat would easily rip through superman.
You must dont understand that he will have Colossus durability (which withstood punches from Gladiator and the Hulk). Wolverine healing factor and adamantium bone UNDER his already high durability and Sebastian shaw durability that has been charged by someone of the strongest people in Marvel U before without a problem. He can take plenty of their punches.
Originally posted by h1a8
IDK, a little distraction and the Mutant can have chop suey.
Controlling the hammer against Thor's will and reversing Superman's blood flow is key. That will give him a moment to slice and dice.Superman's speed is greatly needed here.
He isnt fast enough.
Northstar is much faster.
Originally posted by carver9
With CIS on, can you really see Thor doing this?Plus he would be chopped up before he got the chance too.
Not often, no, but it's an option, especially against someone fortified against conventional damage.
And the soul rape was more or less intended to represent the lasso's power if WW is involved.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not often, no, but it's an option, especially against someone fortified against conventional damage.And the soul rape was more or less intended to represent the lasso's power if WW is involved.
I just put up a scan showing you that this guy will be moving faster than a hundreth of a second and the scan still saying that a hundredth of a second is still slow motion to him.
Do you honestly believe Thor or Superman would get the chance to even throw off an attack?
