Hm, hard to say.
Can Kain defeat a vampire who is immune to the attacks of city+ busters, one who is faster than people who regularly lightning-time, one who is the most powerful in a cast with mid-tiers who can apply 40 tons of pressure to a pencil while lightly sketching and wearing strength limiters, and can Kain resist a punch that can send an opponent out of the galaxy?
I think not.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtHe can punch you clear out of the galaxy.
@NemebroKain does not have to resist any of those things if hes not hit by them.
And the way your saying it, it sounds like hes not got direct or actual feats showing he is>city busting power. Only the implication that he can beat them.
He loses his soul or his mind or his blood. Choose one.
He is faster than Kain's thought processes.
By the time Kain can think to shit himself he is flying past Sirius.
Implication? There is no implication, Slayer is unarguably the strongest character in the game, rivaled only by That Man, both a powerful reality warper and a peer of Slayer's.
The Soul Reaver cannot so much as break his skin.
Kain's abilities do not factor into this fight at all when Slayer can destroy him before Kain can think to do anything.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He can punch you clear out of the galaxy.He is faster than Kain's thought processes.
By the time Kain can think to shit himself he is flying past Sirius.
Implication? There is no implication, Slayer is unarguably the strongest character in the game, rivaled only by That Man, both a powerful reality warper and a peer of Slayer's.
The Soul Reaver cannot so much as break his skin.
Kain's abilities do not factor into this fight at all when Slayer can destroy him before Kain can think to do anything.
Youve said that but never proven it. You using background images as proof like Andromeda Pyron?
And Kains full concious thought process is faster than his Perception process.
By the time Slayers brain can concieve a blur his soul is stuffed into kains sweet little sword.
Show the evidence that he has taken the things you claim he has.
Show me the PSI he has taken.
Show me Slayers mental speed.
Originally posted by Nephthys
If the guy's a lightning-timer Kain has no shot of dodgeing 😬
if and if Kain attempts to dodge physically.
Originally posted by Burning thought1. No you silly impaired person. We actually see the punch thrown, and we see where the opponent is sent.
Youve said that but never proven it. You using background images as proof like Andromeda Pyron?And Kains full concious thought process is faster than his Perception process.
By the time Slayers brain can concieve a blur his soul is stuffed into kains sweet little sword.
Show the evidence that he has taken the things you claim he has.
Show me the PSI he has taken.
Show me Slayers mental speed.
2. Prove it is as fast as lightning.
3. Prove Kain can do this faster than a lightning timer can hit him.
4. Justice destroyed the country of Japan, yet she is weaker than Slayer. Eddie has destroyed a city, yet he is insignifigant compared to Slayer.
5. I am not going to do any calculations, who do I look like, ShitPaste?
6. He is able to fight other lightning timers, and holds back while doing it. Ky Kiske uses lightning powers, his lightning is routinely dodged or blocked, Ride the Lightning, one of his moves, is stated to be Ky charging at lightning speed.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. No you silly impaired person. We actually see the punch thrown, and we see where the opponent is sent.2. Prove it is as fast as lightning.
3. Prove Kain can do this faster than a lightning timer can hit him.
4. Justice destroyed the country of Japan, yet she is weaker than Slayer. Eddie has destroyed a city, yet he is insignifigant compared to Slayer.
5. I am not going to do any calculations, who do I look like, ShitPaste?
6. He is able to fight other lightning timers, and holds back while doing it. Ky Kiske uses lightning powers, his lightning is routinely dodged or blocked, Ride the Lightning, one of his moves, is stated to be Ky charging at lightning speed.
1. Into a background image.....
2. I dont have to unless you can prove his reactions are as fast as lightning. Would be a bit redundant.
3. See 2.
4. So? this does not mean he can take their hits, or deal more damage. They would be insignifacnt to kain because he can just slow them in time and take their souls without them having lifted a finger.
5. Wear a green hat, hold a beer and you will be on your way.
6, So your saying just because a combat move in the gameplay is apprently fast that canonically Slayer can dodge lightning? 🙂
Originally posted by Burning thought1.
1. Into a background image.....2. I dont have to unless you can prove his reactions are as fast as lightning. Would be a bit redundant.
3. See 2.
4. So? this does not mean he can take their hits, or deal more damage. They would be insignifacnt to kain because he can just slow them in time and take their souls without them having lifted a finger.
5. Wear a green hat, hold a beer and you will be on your way.
6, So your saying just because a combat move in the gameplay is apprently fast that canonically Slayer can dodge lightning? 🙂
2. Already did.
3. I would say see 2, but I am not entirely sure you can read.
4. Slayer has never been harmed by a single GG character, their attacks do no damage to them, his only losses are ones that he allowed to happen. Time? GG has time warpers that make Kain look like an imbecile.
5. You want him. Admit it.
6. I am saying that since Sol Badguy can easily dodge Ky's lightning that Slayer, who is faster than Sol, can do so as well.
Slayer's basic stats are much higher than Kain's. He's stronger, faster, more durable, etc...But Kain has FAR better "powers" as far as we know. Until GG actually takes their asses beyond XX, they have been stuck on 2 for almost 10 years, I will reserve my judgment. Slayer's story is pretty damn vague, revealin' pretty much nothin'. The game barely scratches the surface as to how powerful he really is. He is clearly better than anyone in the cast at this point with out much effort. He is so much more better, he can't even be knocked unconscious in the game, at all.
Anyone curious about GG can look here.
http://www.guiltygear.ru/ggworld.php?sect=plot&lang=en
Originally posted by No End N SiteIt is true that the true nature of Slayer's powers are unknown, it is obvious he can do much moar, but in the game he only uses simple physical strikes because he is so far above the cast.
Slayer's basic stats are much higher than Kain's. He's stronger, faster, more durable, etc...But Kain has FAR better "powers" as far as we know. Until GG actually takes their asses beyond XX, they have been stuck on 2 for almost 10 years, I will reserve my judgment. Slayer's story is pretty damn vague, revealin' pretty much nothin'. The game barely scratches the surface as to how powerful he really is. He is clearly better than anyone in the cast at this point with out much effort. He is so much more better, he can't even be knocked unconscious in the game, at all.Anyone curious about GG can look here.
http://www.guiltygear.ru/ggworld.php?sect=plot&lang=en
But based on the other character's physical stats and Slayer's own being far above their's, that gives him the win.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Slayer's basic stats are much higher than Kain's. He's stronger, faster, more durable, etc...
Anyone curious about GG can look here.
http://www.guiltygear.ru/ggworld.php?sect=plot&lang=en
You seem a more knowledgable person on the series, can you direct me to a storyline event/vid that can show me his feats?
Originally posted by NemeBro
1.2. Already did.
3. I would say see 2, but I am not entirely sure you can read.
4. Slayer has never been harmed by a single GG character, their attacks do no damage to them, his only losses are ones that he allowed to happen. Time? GG has time warpers that make Kain look like an imbecile.
5. You want him. Admit it.
6. I am saying that since Sol Badguy can easily dodge Ky's lightning that Slayer, who is faster than Sol, can do so as well.
1.
2. No, youve simply stated he can fight with other lightning timers, does not mean he is as fask as them. Kratos can fight with Hermes, but hes not as fast.
3. A lot better than you dear boy.
4. In gameplay or a canon storyline event? show...
6. A guy can escape the aim of another characters lightning attack so therefore another character has lightning reflexes? wut lol, your going to have to show the event, it sounds pretty sketchy.
Originally posted by NemeBro
But based on the other character's physical stats and Slayer's own being far above their's, that gives him the win.
So I am right, your basing him being faster, stronger etc based on some gameplay statistics? 🙄
Originally posted by Burning thought
So I am right, your basing him being faster, stronger etc based on some gameplay statistics? 🙄
It sounds more like he is basing them off canon statistics from characters' stories. The fact some of those statistics are translatable to gameplay should have no bearing on this.