Superman vs. X-men

Originally posted by Warlord
I remember her powers working instantly with just a touch back in older apearences. She was able to drain Thor and Wonderman in the "classic" era.
I don't say she is enough but if she can touch him and Jean follow with a psi attack they could win

even if it was an instantaneous one, that still doesn't account for the sun recharging him and the fact that he really would get her away from him as quickly as possible...

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
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i am sure he does have resistance and some training so do many other ppl and it doesn't always count for beans when a character is using his or her power at its fullest.

Care to tell me what specific moments you have where He was able to stop a full psi attack from one of the most powerful psi beings on the planet?

Manchester Black, Despero, Martian Manhunter. There's a veritable list.

actually the above mentioned characters have also managed to get in his mind before... Depends on the writer and the story I guess.
The sun takes time to recharge him also. And I'm talking about a psi attack at the time Rogue touches him (and maybe Iceman lowers his inner temperature)

if i recall MB was manipulating his mind creating illusions and his plan wasnt to kill superman but to get superman to kill him by goading him by making him think he killed Lois..

not sure how specifically supes resisted despero but i am sure he did.

MM was able to drag the entire JLA and even the spectre into the joker's mind not sure how superman has immunity or stop jean from wiping his mind or casting illusions. if she tried to get him to kill or act against his nature then yes, he is resistant and may break free.

Originally posted by Warlord
actually the above mentioned characters have also managed to get in his mind before... Depends on the writer and the story I guess.
The sun takes time to recharge him also. And I'm talking about a psi attack at the time Rogue touches him (and maybe Iceman lowers his inner temperature)

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
if i recall MB was manipulating his mind creating illusions and his plan wasnt to kill superman but to get superman to kill him by goading him by making him think he killed Lois..

not sure how specifically supes resisted despero but i am sure he did.

MM was able to drag the entire JLA and even the spectre into the joker's mind not sure how superman has immunity or stop jean from wiping his mind or casting illusions. if she tried to get him to kill or act against his nature then yes, he is resistant and may break free.

superman has a lot more showings of resisting telepathy than he does of being beaten by it. his resistance is insanely high.

the sun can actually recharge him quite quickly nowadays. it does tend to depend on what's being used to drain him though.

he fought black more than once.

I'm sure you've read more Superman than me but from the JLA books I have I'd say his showings are 50/50.

Anyway even if he can deal with Jean's TP I doubt he could deal with a combined Jean, Bobby, Rogue attack.

Not that it would be easy to orchestrate such an attack against him but IF it is done I think he would go down

Rogue and Iceman are the only problems the rest are non factors.

I disagree...Jean can help under certain conditions

Even Martian Manhunter himself said the only reason he CAN get into Clark's head is because Clark lets him.
Those characters feats are well above pre-pheonix jean grey.

Some of the kids from Supertown tried to put Superman in Chronal statis, freezing him in time. It was bringing his molecules to a halt, similar to how cold works, and ice even formed around him. It barely slowed him down.

Freezing Superman's insides would also be akin to freezing a star.

A more likely scenario is that a wide blast of heat vision would wreck pretty much that whole team.
Superman's an X team rolled into one, multiplied by a 1000 or more.

Originally posted by Juntai
Even Martian Manhunter himself said the only reason he CAN get into Clark's head is because Clark lets him.
Those characters feats are well above pre-pheonix jean grey.

yet Fernus had no problem doing it

Cyclops+Colossus+someone who can fly=Superman

Originally posted by Warlord
I remember her powers working instantly with just a touch back in older apearences. She was able to drain Thor and Wonderman in the "classic" era.
I don't say she is enough but if she can touch him and Jean follow with a psi attack they could win

Actually, she ws unable to drain Simon.

that was b/c of his ionic nature irrc b/c he had no genetic or biological pattern to work with.

This guy wins

Rogue touch everyone on her team and stomps this fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Rogue touch everyone on her team and stomps this fight.

Realistically Superman could end this fight within 5 minutes other then Iceman there are no real threats on this team.

Originally posted by carver9
Rogue touch everyone on her team and stomps this fight.

Even absorbing the powers of everyone on that team superman still has a huge advantage over rogue.

Superman, more often than not, wins.

Originally posted by godking
Other then iceman who on this team has a power that could even trouble Superman.

Even absorbing the powers of everyone on that team superman still has a huge advantage over rogue.