Ronin Warriors vs Kyubi

Umm... Touma would like to have a word with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-7Hxgf7Xw#t=1m37s

And that was pre-powerup too.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Kento, why would an eclipse just out of the blue happen right when the armor was wakened? Especially when there was no eclipse schedule to happen on that day, let alone at the very moment.

It's because it did it itself. I'm pretty sure that's easy to understand.

But I do agree. Ryo himself does limit the power of the armor due to his virtue. Regardless, he's easily a planet buster.

But as for Kyuubi, any of the RW can beat him by themselves. There's no need for the entire team.

None of them are close to planet busters. The RW's without Inferno are able to destroy blocks. Inferno doesn't power Ryo up from mere blocks to planet busting. And Kyuubi's power is equal at least to Hachibi's so it can easily destroy mountains. And what 4-tailed Naruto did to the forest while having it's power be blocked. Kyuubi's power is above them and Inferno without a virtue is probably on Kyuubi's level. No way they win.

Originally posted by Kento
Because the Inferno Armors met when they were never meant to or it would cause the destruction of the world. If it had been the White Armor then the eclipse wouldn't have lasted after it was beaten, but it wasn't until after the Black Armor was beaten that it stopped, and the moon and sun went back just as fast to where they were meant to be.

So we deny what we clearly see? Okay, gotcha.

None of them are close to planet busters. The RW's without Inferno are able to destroy blocks. Inferno doesn't power Ryo up from mere blocks to planet busting. And Kyuubi's power is equal at least to Hachibi's so it can easily destroy mountains. And what 4-tailed Naruto did to the forest while having it's power be blocked. Kyuubi's power is above them and Inferno without a virtue is probably on Kyuubi's level. No way they win.

Stated no more than three times and then we see the armor showing the capabilities of moving the sun... the thing that makes earth look like a pebble in comparison. Yeah, I'm sure there's no PB power from the Inferno armors.

And even if you somehow believe that the RW are only block busters (lol this is rich), they tank far more damage than the Kyuubi could ever dream of dishing out.

So tell me, how is the Kyuubi gonna harm one of them, let alone all?

Originally posted by Keollyn
Umm... Touma would like to have a word with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-7Hxgf7Xw#t=1m37s

And that was pre-powerup too.

Originally posted by King Kandy
A special attack that while destroying a large amount didn't come close to the whole mountain, is not destroying an entire mountain with a casual flick.

And again, that was pre-powerup.

And Shutendouji took that with nothing more than a crack to his helmet.

All RW post-powerup are stronger than that Shutendouji

Plus I was only responding to you saying that they're only city-block in power. That my friend is vastly over city-block.

Oh, and the RW would be exponentially faster than the Kyuubi. So how can Kyuubi defeat them if it can't hit them?

Originally posted by Keollyn
So we deny what we clearly see? Okay, gotcha.

Stated no more than three times and then we see the armor showing the capabilities of moving the sun... the thing that makes earth look like a pebble in comparison. Yeah, I'm sure there's no PB power from the Inferno armors.

And even if you somehow believe that the RW are only block busters (lol this is rich), they tank far more damage than the Kyuubi could ever dream of dishing out.

So tell me, how is the Kyuubi gonna harm one of them, let alone all?

And it not once showed that kind of power to bust a planet. Destroy it yes because nothing on Earth would be able to stop it. But outright blow it up. Not a chance. And there is no proof it moved the sun and the moon. When the sun and the moon do the exact same thing in reverse when the Black Armor is beaten and the White Armor isn't around.

They are block busters. Not one block sure but they also don't have the power to destroy cities either. Even Sage's armor unchecked by virtue was only destroying city blocks. Granted his power isn't a blast though and it was still destroying buildings and streets. Kento's power than beat a powered-up Anubis only destroyed a city block.

Originally posted by Kento
What do we see? Hm We see the White Armor come out with the Black Armor in the area. We see the White Armor standing there with his swords. We see the moon and sun make an eclipse quickly. We see the Ronin Warriors beat the armor, eclipse is still there.

The RW only qwelled it, not defeat it.

And yes, an eclipse would stlll be there. That's what happens when you don't move things back...

We see Ryo gain the Inferno, and fight the Mukala in teh Black Armor. We see the Ronin's together beat the Black Armor with the power of their spirit. Then we see the sun and the moon move back just as fast as they came together after the Black Armor is beaten, after the White Armor had already been beaten. So how is this in any relation to the White Armor doing anything? When the sun and moon move just as fast back to where they belong after the White Armor has been beaten.

Easily, it's called doing aware with what was done. The battle was over afterall. Else tell me how that eclipse happened at all? The sun and moon just decide to realign itself for the hell of it?

And it not once showed that kind of power to bust a planet. Destroy it yes because nothing on Earth would be able to stop it. But outright blow it up. Not a chance. And there is no proof it moved the sun and the moon. When the sun and the moon do the exact same thing in reverse when the Black Armor is beaten and the White Armor isn't around.

When you're able to bring destruction to a planet when you're not even in the same dimension as that planet, I'm pretty sure it's not hard to destroy it.

The armor has the power to do it. It's only Ryo that keeps the power in check. So stop acting like it can't.

They are block busters. Not one block sure but they also don't have the power to destroy cities either. Even Sage's armor unchecked by virtue was only destroying city blocks. Granted his power isn't a blast though and it was still destroying buildings and streets. Kento's power than beat a powered-up Anubis only destroyed a city block.

So destroying a mountain only makes you a multi-block buster? Okay, gotcha.

Originally posted by Keollyn
The RW only qwelled it, not defeat it.

And yes, an eclipse would stlll be there. That's what happens when you don't move things back...

Originally posted by Keollyn

Easily, it's called doing aware with what was done. The battle was over afterall. Else tell me how that eclipse happened at all? The sun and moon just decide to realign itself for the hell of it?

Originally posted by Keollyn
When you're able to bring destruction to a planet when you're not even in the same dimension as that planet, I'm pretty sure it's not hard to destroy it.

The armor has the power to do it. It's only Ryo that keeps the power in check. So stop acting like it can't.

Ryo keeps it's power in check but there is nothing to even remotely suggest that it can bust a planet..

Originally posted by Keollyn
So destroying a mountain only makes you a multi-block buster? Okay, gotcha.

Originally posted by Kento
Quelling it IS defeating it.

Not in the case of what they did. It's practically like they stopped its rampage (which wouldn't be difficult for them since they make up that very armor)

-snippet of stuff just being repeated-

What are you even talking about?

When Ryo let off his blast, Earth was being ravaged. Ryo set off that blast in the Dynasty dimension. Do you remember this show?

Ryo keeps it's power in check but there is nothing to even remotely suggest that it can bust a planet..

Moving the sun, especially after it has been noted several times to have the power to destroy worlds.

What aren't you getting? Do you need visuals?

http://www.co-intelligence.org/newsletter/images/sun-etc.jpg

To move a sun and not be able to destroy a planet like Earth? Hilarious.

Did I mention Rowen? No.

Are you okay? I'm not sure, because I think I just quoted you when you said that they are block busters. You don't have to mention Rowen... saying '[b]they' was enough to include him.

Not to mention he didn't destroy the whole mountain. Or anything close to it. [/B]

'To damage beyond use or repair; To cause destruction; To neutralize, undo a property or condition; To put down or euthanize; (transitive) To defeat soundly; (transitive) To remove data'

I don't see anywhere in there that doesn't describe what Touma just did.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Not in the case of what they did. It's practically like they stopped its rampage (which wouldn't be difficult for them since they make up that very armor)

-snippet of stuff just being repeated-

Originally posted by Keollyn
When Ryo let off his blast, Earth was being ravaged. Ryo set off that blast in the Dynasty dimension. Do you remember this show?

Originally posted by Keollyn
Moving the sun, especially after it has been noted several times to have the power to destroy worlds.

What aren't you getting? Do you need visuals?

http://www.co-intelligence.org/newsletter/images/sun-etc.jpg

To move a sun and not be able to destroy a planet like Earth? Hilarious[./B]

Originally posted by Keollyn
[B
Are you okay? I'm not sure, because I think I just quoted you when you said that they are block busters. You don't have to mention Rowen... saying '[b]they' was enough to include him.

And that would be a destroyed mountain. Do you now need definitions?

'To damage beyond use or repair; To cause destruction; To neutralize, undo a property or condition; To put down or euthanize; (transitive) To defeat soundly; (transitive) To remove data'

I don't see anywhere in there that doesn't describe what Touma just did. [/B]

Originally posted by Keollyn
And again, that was pre-powerup.

And Shutendouji took that with nothing more than a crack to his helmet.

All RW post-powerup are stronger than that Shutendouji

Plus I was only responding to you saying that they're only city-block in power. That my friend is vastly over city-block.

In any case, you are taking a very much above average showing there, and taking it as if it was the average. Much stronger fighters than him such as Kayura or Anubis w/ the staff of ancients have used their specials without doing nearly as much damage.

Meanwhile, using a special attack to do LESS than the kyuubi can with no effort at all is not going to help in this fight.

Meanwhile, Inferno as a planet buster... if I recall, it was Badamon who claimed that and he was the same one who believed throwing dust around would enable him to be the master of the white armor.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Which "power up" are you talking about here?

The one before Kayura showed up. Everyone went through a second one.

In any case, you are taking a very much above average showing there, and taking it as if it was the average. Much stronger fighters than him such as Kayura or Anubis w/ the staff of ancients have used their specials without doing nearly as much damage.

And that's not the only hard hitting feat. There's the clash with Ryo and Shin, the Kaos (Ancient) splitting the city, Ryo and Seiji creating a massive precipice, Shu causing desertification, Ryo busting multiple gates larger than skyscrapers [b]spread out over a city and a host of others.

Kayura herself always blast though everyone's choudandou. You telling me the power to do that to Touma's is only city-block?

So just because none of the other ones are ever near a mountain to go destroy it doesn't mean they don't have equal power. That'd be silly for Touma to be the only one with that level of power.

Meanwhile, using a special attack to do LESS than the kyuubi can with no effort at all is not going to help in this fight.

The Kyuubi never did similar damage with a generic attack. Stop being delusional.

Meanwhile, Inferno as a planet buster... if I recall, it was Badamon who claimed that and he was the same one who believed throwing dust around would enable him to be the master of the white armor. [/B]

Badamon, Arago, legends from previous clans and the source book all mention that they have that level of power.

Then we have a sun mover in Shiroi Kioutei.

I think I'll believe the intentions of the author over some deluded Naruto wanker.

Originally posted by Kento
They stopped it's power, and stopped it from destroying anything. How is that not beating it?

If you want to call that a beaten, so be it.

Which fight are you talking about? And the Netherworld and Earth were connected at the times they went to it.

No it wasn't. The narrator clearly said that his power was spilling into the mortal world.

Again you're assuming that the Inferno Armor did it. When there is nothing to suggest it did. Just because it came out doesn't suddenly mean the Armor got the power to move the sun and moon. And still the fact after the Armors are destroyed the eclipse ends and the Sun and Moon are moving just as fast as they did when the eclipse began.

It awakens, the sun and moon 'now' begins to move, the eclipse appears behind Shiroi Kikoutei.

Seriously?

He destroyed a small part of it. There isn't a city sized crater there at all. And Rowen causing that much destruction means they all can? Even though Kento sure didn't and he defeated a powered-up Anubis. And the Halo Armor didn't when it was stronger than normal. I can't remember Cye ever destroying much of anything...

I'm not sure how that deep scar that's within that mountain is a small part. You can see the trees that Shutendouji just finish knocking them into and how big they were then compared to how small they were when the scene panned out to the destroyed mountain.

It's also interesting that Shuten actually caught the arrow, so that wasn't the full attack anyway.

And yes, Touma destroying that should equally make it so for everyone. The armor split was never said to divide the power unevenly. It's just different aspects of the armor, that's all.

And Shin's blast are massive. They're just always going upward

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hmLGC5SeSS0#t=3m05s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PSfzlkS_nk4#t=5m26s

P.S. When was the Halo armor ever stronger than normal?

Originally posted by Keollyn
The one before Kayura showed up. Everyone went through a second one.

Originally posted by Keollyn
And that's not the only hard hitting feat. There's the clash with Ryo and Shin, the Kaos (Ancient) splitting the city, Ryo and Seiji creating a massive precipice, Shu causing desertification, Ryo busting multiple gates larger than skyscrapers [b]spread out over a city and a host of others.

Kayura herself always blast though everyone's choudandou. You telling me the power to do that to Touma's is only city-block?

So just because none of the other ones are ever near a mountain to go destroy it doesn't mean they don't have equal power. That'd be silly for Touma to be the only one with that level of power.[/B]

Originally posted by Keollyn
The Kyuubi never did similar damage with a generic attack. Stop being delusional.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Badamon, Arago, legends from previous clans and the source book all mention that they have that level of power.

Then we have a sun mover in Shiroi Kioutei.

I think I'll believe the intentions of the author over some deluded Naruto wanker.

Ooh, flaming now. Reported.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Really, when exactly was that? The only powerup I recall was Ryo getting the swords of ferver.

Touma had his on episode 28, Shin episode 25. I can't remember when Su and Seiji had there's but everyone had their powerup right before Kayura arrived and wisked them away.

No, because that was ONE showing, which never again could be called up when it needed to. If a relatively weak character like Rowen shows more power than anyone else in the series, then that's what we call PIS, not an average showing.

And Kyuubi has NO showing of mountain busting with a casual flick.

That's acceptable AMIRITE?

No, we have never seen Kyuubi fully manifested doing anything on panel... however the descriptions of what it did, tell of it doing exactly that. Leveling mountains and raising tsunamis just by flicking it's tails, that is not what you'd call "generic" or "casual"? It's just a tail flick.

No sorry chap. We won't be using this non-existing feat. That would be grounds for hypocritical arguments sir.

Badamon and Arago clearly had no clue what they were talking about and were proven wrong every single time they attempted to actually apply their knowledge about the inferno armor. Such as... magic dust controlling inferno, overpowering it with the warlord's virtues, using nether spirits to drain the armors... all showing they didn't have a clue what they were doing in regard to the white armor.

Arago had the armor in the past. In fact, it was his for a time. How would he not know what he's talking about?

Sorry dude, but the Inferno armor was controlled. It was just his power that repelled it. So where were they wrong there?

And this still doesn't dismiss the source book or the legends of a clan saying this. That's about four sources and then one massive feat.

Ooh, flaming now. Reported.

OOOO scary.

If you don't accept that statement as a feat then this thread is pointless, because that's the only feat a fully released kyuubi has in the whole series.

So let me get this straight: You believe the bullshit hyperbole about the Kyuubi with no proof, but you don't believe the claims about the armors being planetbusters even though they actually have proof (moving the stars)?

Double standards.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
So let me get this straight: You believe the bullshit hyperbole about the Kyuubi with no proof, but you don't believe the claims about the armors being planetbusters even though they actually have proof (moving the stars)?

Double standards.

So like I said, double standards. If you believe the Kyuubi can destroy mountains with its tail then you have to believe the inferno armor can destroy planets.