Originally posted by carver9Well he's had his arm broken, almost beat to death by Thor's hammer, and owned by his own hv. Yes he was hurt because Hulk carried him over to the reactor at that point.
I agree, he isnt Completely Invulnerable to magic.I already know what scan you are going to put up, him being stabbed by a magical blade.
I agree, Hulk messed him up with his own attack, it could happen to the best but he still wasnt injured.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well he's had his arm broken, almost beat to death by Thor's hammer, and owned by his own hv. Yes he was hurt because Hulk carried him over to the reactor at that point.
Arm broken, very debatable since he was using that same arm a couple of panels later.
Beat to death by Thors hammer? Which Thor?
Heat Vision? Yes, it going back to the brain, that would mess him up but again, he didnt suffer a scratch from that attack.
He was carried over to the reactor so easily because of his weakness to that radiation weakened him.
Gladiator wins this easily IMO. I know he's depicted inconsistently, but his high showings leave Juggernaut in the dust (punching a planet to pieces, flying through stars and supernova explosions, breaking Hyperion's neck, etc...) Juggs is more famous for his durability rather than his strength; so I'm curious why Juggs defenders think he's strong enough to KO a non jobbing Glads.
Originally posted by carver9
Arm broken, very debatable since he was using that same arm a couple of panels later.Beat to death by Thors hammer? Which Thor?
Heat Vision? Yes, it going back to the brain, that would mess him up but again, he didnt suffer a scratch from that attack.
He was carried over to the reactor so easily because of his weakness to that radiation weakened him.
I think you're confusing invulnerability and impervious which Gladiator is neither.
Originally posted by brownqk
Gladiator wins this easily IMO. I know he's depicted inconsistently, but his high showings leave Juggernaut in the dust (punching a planet to pieces, flying through stars and supernova explosions, breaking Hyperion's neck, etc...) Juggs is more famous for his durability rather than his strength; so I'm curious why Juggs defenders think he's strong enough to KO a non jobbing Glads.
He doesn't have super speed here.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Hulk?
I see. Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree then.
In no way, should the hulk, at least the "normal" savage version anyway, beat Gladiator IMO. Despite their on panel fight, and Hulk winning by throwing Gladiator into some nuclear power plant (PIS if you ask me, since Gladiator has been shown flying through stars which produce a lot more radiation than nuclear power plants), Glads, even without his super speed should pawn both the Hulk and Juggernaut, IMO.
Originally posted by carver9How is it debatable when we saw it happen?
Arm broken, very debatable since he was using that same arm a couple of panels later.Beat to death by Thors hammer? Which Thor?
Heat Vision? Yes, it going back to the brain, that would mess him up but again, he didnt suffer a scratch from that attack.
He was carried over to the reactor so easily because of his weakness to that radiation weakened him.
I've told you like three times already. Masterson thor almost beat him to death they needed to pull him off.
The weakness to radiation was only used when he threw him into it. The hv blast made him weak enough to fall victim to the Hulk not the radiation until he physically put him into it.
The scene clearly shows us that. In fact with the showings we have seen he's not any more vulnerable than the Surfer and in the same category as Superman.
Originally posted by brownqk
Gladiator wins this easily IMO. I know he's depicted inconsistently, but his high showings leave Juggernaut in the dust (punching a planet to pieces, flying through stars and supernova explosions, breaking Hyperion's neck, etc...) Juggs is more famous for his durability rather than his strength; so I'm curious why Juggs defenders think he's strong enough to KO a non jobbing Glads.
juggernaut easily locked up with world war hulk in a test of strength while completely distracted and barely paying attention. not to mention dropping him in the first punch.
he also knocked the stranger on his back (said to be as powerful as galactus) with one blow. he also wasnt full power.
juggernaut has NEVER been shown to have to little strength to do something. except lift thors hammer. which is because of magics.
so what would cause you to think that he wouldnt be strong enough to handle gladiator?
Originally posted by brownqk
I see. Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree then.In no way, should the hulk, at least the "normal" savage version anyway, beat Gladiator IMO. Despite their on panel fight, and Hulk winning by throwing Gladiator into some nuclear power plant (PIS if you ask me, since Gladiator has been shown flying through stars which produce a lot more radiation than nuclear power plants), Glads, even without his super speed should pawn both the Hulk and Juggernaut, IMO.
Well how does he put Cain down in this scenario?
Originally posted by brownqk
I see. Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree then.In no way, should the hulk, at least the "normal" savage version anyway, beat Gladiator IMO. Despite their on panel fight, and Hulk winning by throwing Gladiator into some nuclear power plant (PIS if you ask me, since Gladiator has been shown flying through stars which produce a lot more radiation than nuclear power plants), Glads, even without his super speed should pawn both the Hulk and Juggernaut, IMO.
Seriously? You think Gladiator is stronger than the Hulk? How did you come to that conclusion?
Seeing as how Juggernaut has beaten Hulk into unconciousness in the past, I see Gladiator falling a bit easier.