Thanos w/ HOTU vs. The Presence

Started by quanchi1124 pages

Originally posted by Blanket
Sounds like you're making something out of nothing tbh.
Says the guy who didn't read the comic and tried to talk his way out of something you didn't read. Don't worry bran it happens to most of those who face off against quan in combat.

I never tried to talk my way out of it. I tried to talk you into providing proof. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the writer chose to make a rock big enough he couldn't lift it so to speak.
Does that mean he isn't omnipotent?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't worry bran it happens to most of those who face off against quan in combat.
You mean they puke then slip on it and crack their head?

Originally posted by Blanket
I never tried to talk my way out of it. I tried to talk you into providing proof. 🙂

Does that mean he isn't omnipotent?

I told you I didn't have the scan from the beginning.

No.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I told you I didn't have the scan from the beginning.

No.

Acting like a stuck up prick to people who would like to see proof of what you're talking about is not a way to go about things.

But that's one of the main questions of omnipotence.

Originally posted by Blanket
Acting like a stuck up prick to people who would like to see proof of what you're talking about is not a way to go about things.

But that's one of the main questions of omnipotence.

I am not acting like a prick I am saying I don't have the scans. I haven't got them anymore but I've had this argument before and have put them up many times. It isn't my intention on acting stuck up.

Whether or not any of these characters are truly omnipotent is irrelevant in a versus battle. Thanos has the goods to win it.

Presence wins

Stalemate.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Think of the Heart as TOAA's hand. TOAA was allowing Thanos to use His 'hand' to get him to eventually correct the flaw (himself). There wasn't a single moment where Thanos was any kind of threat to TOAA.

Right, but isnt't this pretty much what I said?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is a shred thread where their powers work in a combined reality. Thanos absorbs the presence and does so quite easily.

Again, Thanos needed to do something the TOAA could not do himself which really has nothing to do with Thanos absorbing the dcu here.

In a a reality where they can both use their powers, than as they are both omnipotent they would cancel each other out. There is nothing thanos with thotu can do, that the presence can't, assuming allankles theory of the presence as the primal monitor itself.

So thanos will still not absorbe him, just as he wouldnt absorb the marvel omniverse without TOAA's consent.

Anyone who believes this is other than a stalemate is company biased. If Thanos wins(as Quan suggests), then that means the TOAA>Presence...and that Marvel>DC. That simply is not so!!

Stalemate!!!

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Anyone who believes this is other than a stalemate is company biased. If Thanos wins(as Quan suggests), then that means the TOAA>Presence...and that Marvel>DC. That simply is not so!!

Stalemate!!!

Some people think the presence is not truly omnipotent, only the primal monitor is, and they are separate entities, although I think the whole finaol crisis thing is very confusing and inconsistant. This isn't what people are claiming here though.

Originally posted by 753
Some people think the presence is not truly omnipotent, only the primal monitor is, and they are separate entities, although I think the whole finaol crisis thing is very confusing and inconsistant. This isn't what people are claiming here though.

I understand what you're saying, but the Primal Monitor hasn't displayed ALL the traits of being a Supreme Being. He wasn't Omniscient. He somehow managed to DISCOVER a germ..that was the DC multiverse. He then proceeded to send a monitor to investigate. A truly ALL knowing Being shouldn't imply the notion of discovering anything. If the PM was truly Supreme, it would already KNOW EVERYTHING...including any GERM.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I understand what you're saying, but the Primal Monitor hasn't displayed ALL the traits of being a Supreme Being. He wasn't Omniscient. He somehow managed to DISCOVER a germ..that was the DC multiverse. He then proceeded to send a monitor to investigate. A truly ALL knowing Being shouldn't imply the notion of discovering anything. If the PM was truly Supreme, it would already KNOW EVERYTHING...including any GERM.

my problem with it exactly, but it's also a problem if we think the presence is the mind of the PM like morrison said in an interview

Originally posted by 753
Some people think the presence is not truly omnipotent, only the primal monitor is, and they are separate entities, although I think the whole finaol crisis thing is very confusing and inconsistant. This isn't what people are claiming here though.

The way I see it they're different faces of the same entity along with the Source and maybe Rama Kushna.

The most idiotic is when someone say the other stomps the other one in such battle like this one.