UFC Type Match, (Fighthers become human)

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
when he finishes it off with a ko, pinch they wont be laughing and his fighting has nothing to do with superhuman stats. as i pointed out earlier creel was a pro boxer and all their powers were deactivated and he still handled him.

all the other fights not like he was trying to fight them at the peak of his ability but was phoning in his grappling attacks since he isnt trying to kill.. if you like i am sure i can post some where he just snaps ppls necks and arms for you if that will make you happy some well above his strength class but it is skill that accomplishes his feat.

you might as well say bats cant beat these guys either.

everyone is human with human limits so logan has as much chance of hurting them as they have on him but they unlike logan severely lack in the fighting skill and knowledge.

Hercules is an accomplished dirty boxer and has the size, weight, strength, experience advantage. Then this turns into a grappler vs. striker fight and how often do you think strikers against grapplers win in real UFC fights? Not often.

Those scans you posted arn't really grappling attacks, do you not understand what it is? I seriously don't think you know much about "real" fighting.

Except you factor in the size and height advantage over each other and thats a huge advantage. The reason weight classes were created were due to this. Style makes fights and a grappler is 90% the victor in grapplers vs. strikers matches (though Hercules is a skilled boxer)

I'm inclined to go with Hercules. He's going to be manhandling a lot of people.

i know more about real life fighting then you would think... that has nothing to do with comic characters fighting in a ring.

here we factor more the just height and weight we also factor comic history of teh character and fighting knowledge which again leaves herc SH#@ out of luck when comparing logan's long history of melee fighting with applied grappling, kicking, punching, headbutting, elbowing, nerve pinching.. against logan herc is a one trick pony b/c logan knows more about dirty fighting then herc.

now i highly doubt you have ever entered the ring in a real life fight whether in a back alley bar fight, wrestling mat, MA ring tournament, military sand pit or a boxing ring... guess who has... and at the end of the day that doesnt mean squat here at kmc comic vs thread forum so i dont use my life experience so why should you try to use ur real life opinion of logic building of a sporting event and try to apply it to comic characters who routinely exceed the real world human.

here even with comic human base lvl they far exceed what a real MMA'er could do or handle.

Herc should take this more often than not. If he does lose, it would be due to a mistake that leads to him tapping out...similar to the first Lesnar/Mir fight!!!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This fight is between Herc, Thor, and Superman. I go with Herc then Superman and finally Thor

Superman is the weakest guy here... he doesnt know how to fight dirty and take advantage of his opponent like ares, herc or wolverine..

thor is too noble but herc has bn teaching him but, it may not be enough..

^nice scans

If it's a mma type of fight does it have the same restrictions?

Assuming it doesn't, if we take the millenia of experience ares, hercules and thor are supposed to have and the fact that one of them embodies war, they would likely dominate the others and split among themselves with Ares on top. But going by on panel feats of cqc, logan would blind, cripple and kill them all despite their weight advantages.

SM would get crushed if anyone is wondering.

knee and kicking against DD logan's knowledge of real fighting is second nature to him.. he countered a roll and used it to kick DD in the chin.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i know more about real life fighting then you would think... that has nothing to do with comic characters fighting in a ring.

Actually it does as their back to real humans as stated in the opening paragraph

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
here we factor more the just height and weight we also factor comic history of teh character and fighting knowledge which again leaves herc SH#@ out of luck when comparing logan's long history of melee fighting with applied grappling, kicking, punching, headbutting, elbowing, nerve pinching.. against logan herc is a one trick pony b/c logan knows more about dirty fighting then herc.

*facepalm* UFC rules, meaning they have to fight a certain way so your post was pretty much pointless. Also good lord do you think Wolverine does that more then Hercules? That's what he does, and heatbutting is illegal

Why are they dirty fighting? It's UFC rules. Once again I don't think you know much about real fighting

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
[B]

Why the hell did you post that?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
[B]now i highly doubt you have ever entered the ring in a real life fight whether in a back alley bar fight, wrestling mat, MA ring tournament, military sand pit or a boxing ring... guess who has... and at the end of the day that doesnt mean squat here at kmc comic vs thread forum so i dont use my life experience so why should you try to use ur real life opinion of logic building of a sporting event and try to apply it to comic characters who routinely exceed the real world human.

Actually I have as many know I used to box for years, never fought in MMA but trained in ju-jutsu and have followed MMA for years. haha lulz? once again UFC rules, how many times does that go over your head. I stopped reading the last part of your post as it was pretty sad and wrong.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
here even with comic human base lvl they far exceed what a real MMA'er could do or handle.

Wolverine is said to have superhuman strength, if you want to go that route do you seriously want to have a strength feat war with Hercules? wow. Once again another pointless scan as Roughouse is no Herc from his boxing and wrestling experience.

Jesus some of you people are dense.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
everyone becames human strength and durability.
ufc rules apply so no weapons or powers or flight or anything like that
excessive bleading= disqualification
bleeding over eyes=disqualification

So why are people talking about fighting dirty?

i posted the scan to show logan also kicks in th crotch and knows how to dodge and counter not to show his strength and hitting power but, once again show his actual fighting knowledge and skill.

your also treading real close to some very negative behavior that is looked down on in this site.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i posted the scan to show logan also kicks in th crotch and lows how to dodge and counter not to show his strength and hitting power but, once again show his actual fighting knowledge and skill.

your also treading real close to some very negative behavior that is looked down on in this site.

If he kicks to the crotch he is DQ'ed, that's UFC rules. *facepalm*

Im one of the most respected posters on this board, try again.

yes, i am aware of the crotch kick is a dis-qualifier but using nerve attacks arent and logan would be guaranteed to use them.

its called the sweet spot as tito ortiz liked to call it..

Herc gnp Wolverine.

Wolverine has a sucky guard, Herc passes all over his face.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yes, i am aware of the crotch kick is a dis-qualifier but using nerve attacks arent and logan would be guaranteed to use them.

its called the sweet spot as tito ortiz liked to call it..

The sweet spot is the chin or temple which is often the location people hit to knock someone out and is not about nerve clusters as it relates to jarring the brain knocking them out. When did Tito say that and refer to nerve clusters?

Look at Dan Hardy recently he was trained by Monks and he knows pressure points, but was utterly schooled. Knowing pressure points and using them in a real fight are completly different. Hercules has shown he knows pressure points as well, but I highly doubt he will actually use them here.

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc gnp Wolverine.

Wolverine has a sucky guard, Herc passes all over his face.

I could see Wolverine attempting to apply a triangle choke from the guard position...but Herc stands up and powerbombs him..ala..Rampage Jackson.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
I could see Wolverine attempting to apply a triangle choke from the guard position...but Herc stands up and powerbombs him..ala..Rampage Jackson.

Originally posted by -K-M-
The sweet spot is the chin or temple which is often the location people hit to knock someone out and is not about nerve clusters as it relates to jarring the brain knocking them out. When did Tito say that and refer to nerve clusters?

Look at Dan Hardy recently he was trained by Monks and he knows pressure points, but was utterly schooled. Knowing pressure points and using them in a real fight are completly different. Hercules has shown he knows pressure points as well, but I highly doubt he will actually use them here.

sigh... again this is not a real life fight.. comic MA beats grappling based strength fighting on a regular bases.. ask cap and see what he thinks. 😬

who gives a sh$# about a real life fighter again stay on topic of the comic character and their abilities and stop trying to lowball them with a real life person's skills who dont even come close to equal the crappiest human street lvler.

tito ortiz was talking about his favorit sweet spot being the ear and being able to punch as hard as he can at it in order to create an air pocket and screw his opponent's equilibrium.

is it ur standard sweet spot, no. but, again pressure points and pain holds all have different names and applications.. i am fully aware that the more common known sweet spots for ignorant fighters is the chin and temple but their are a lot more and logan knows many of them which some would be fatal and instant death and that is using his comic feats of him applying them... if you like i can name you some in the real world and then say logan will use it hear if you like b/c if it can be done by a real person then it stands to reason wolverine would know how to do it as well.. 🙄

logan can instantly kill or blind any of his opponents by hitting them in the temple and pinching the optic nerve by swelling or ko by sudden overload even kill... or he can punch them at the base of the back of the neck in the military we called it the reset button a quick hit can cause a sudden ko lasting mili seconds or full on seconds which is funny to watch ad if hit hard enough can instantly kill... if that isnt good enough logan can punch the right side of their neck hitting it hard enough would cause shock to the system and temporarily stop blood flow or cease the heart causing a chain reaction of passing out and if hit hard enough can confuse the brain and have it shut down and die.

i seen and know a lot of punching attacks that can kill a man but never seen it used b/c ur average real world fighter doesnt know how to apply it. in the comic world to guys like wolverine, cap and bats it is easy as breathing to them second nature. to guys like herc he might know a few blood chokes and air chokes but not enough to outshine guys like wolverine.

Basically to sum it up your post you have no idea what you were talking about when you said sweet spot or fighting in general. I stopped reading very quickly as you have no idea what your talking about, but since your in the vast miniority with your comments are we suprized?