Spider-man accomplished not being defeated by Juggernaut.
It appears you're being spiteful. By making Juggernaut's opponents seem less dangerous it's somehow an insult to Juggernaut and I think we all know how big of a Juggernaut fan you are, but c'mon, one of them was like a magic version of Sabertooth and another one was a magical Human Torch. Big whoop.
One mind-raped Juggernaut through his helmet, one ccut him up with her sword, another slugged it out with him to the point they were causing the hills in the area to collapse.
The "magic version of Sabertooth" you referred to kicked Iron Mans ass.
The fact that any of these guys could give a guy who shit-stomped Thor and nearly killed him speaks enough. Unless, of course, you believe Thor isn't that powerful?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
One mind-raped Juggernaut through his helmet, one ccut him up with her sword, another slugged it out with him to the point they were causing the hills in the area to collapse.The "magic version of Sabertooth" you referred to kicked Iron Mans ass.
The fact that any of these guys could give a guy who shit-stomped Thor and nearly killed him speaks enough. Unless, of course, you believe Thor isn't that powerful?
Thor is pretty powerful, but not around bricks, as most of us know, when he seems to forget most of his powers.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Carnivore kicked Iron Man around with ease.You keep bringing up how they did against the Juggernaut. That's not really the issue.
And he didn't. They barely fought and all he did was: 1) Flip Iron Man who had him in a full nelson, and 2) Grab Iron Man through the wall like a horror movie villain. Iron Man got him in the full nelson and knocked his ass through two walls, once with a repulsor blast and once via boot aided tackle. The fight ended after that.
Stonecutter kicked Iron Man's ass with ease.
If you mean his literal ability to throw Iron Man, I guess it was pretty amiable. Personally, I don't think it makes up for the number of walls he got shot through. And getting knocked down by a pistol shot. It's pretty much exactly what I'd expect to be done by and happen to Sabretooth in the early 90's.
And I do realize by mentioning Sabretooth I may be summoning Wolverine fans in to defend him.
Ehh... Allow me to translate myself. The take down is just slang for knocking him over, which he did.
Carnivore did as little to Iron Man as Iron Man did to Carnivore due to their short fight. When Thor showed up he was saving Iron Man from three Exemplars, not just Carnivore. Even with low power, Iron Man was confident he could have handled Carnivore, which seemed really plausible considering after the full nelson counter, Carnivore was doing nothing that would be considered a threat to Iron Man.
Iron Man would of whomped him, solo, but those guys are jerks. You can't deny there was a high chance of them going after him too. They were in such a hurry to get their war going they wanted to start killing each other before they could get their crap together.
Though on the other hand I suppose letting Carnivore get his face caved in would have taken one out of the running, which would have been equally in character.
Either way, Iron Man was doing just fine against just Carnivore.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Iron Man was no where near making an impact on Carnivore. He was completely unfazed by everything Iron Man did.
I think he would have beaten Carnivore because, while he may have been a great hunter, though we never actually see him hunt, he didn't seem to be a great fighter. If a single headbutt from Juggernaut was enough to phase him, repeated punches to the face and repulsors blasts from Iron Man would have rocked him, which I have no doubt would have happened due to Carnivore's unimpressive hand to hand showings. And if Iron Man didn't have power issues to cry about, or that Dr. Zaius looking guy to look after, it would have undoubtedly been a lot worse for Carnivore.