GL (Hal), Orion, Silver Surfer, Thor vs Darkseid, Thanos.

Originally posted by Digi
Classic Thor could absorb energy even if it wasn't going directly into his hammer, so long as he was holding Mjolnir...it would channel into the hammer. Gotta assume full powersets for that to work, of course, but this is a forum battle. And if he is buying time, he wouldn't necessarily be goaded into a brawl easily.

I know Thanos is on a different level. We're mostly on the same page here. I prefaced my first statement with the necessity of it being a smartly executed plan. Comic-Thor would almost certainly get trucked early in a brawl.

If Thanos decides to come close, Thor would almost certainly forfeit this plan, unless he wants to get smashed in the face.
Also, I see something like this hitting Thor at close range (ignoring his fists as well):
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanoseyeblaststhorandthing.jpg

EDIT: This strategy also assumes Thanos won't be swatting at the other characters flying at his team mate as well...

Originally posted by Blanket
But if it was in the area of his hammer (like a big blast that came close to his hammer), and almost 100% of the time he was a decent range away from it. Mind you, he has absorbed at close range a small Odin blast... but that didn't end well for him...

If Thanos decides to come close, Thor would almost certainly forfeit this plan, unless he wants to get smashed in the face.
Also, I see something like this hitting Thor at close range (ignoring his fists as well):
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanoseyeblaststhorandthing.jpg

EDIT: This strategy also assumes Thanos won't be swatting at the other characters flying at his team mate as well...

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Well sure, if he loses Mjolnir...

Thanos' output isn't Odin's, though Thor has absorbed a blast from Gungir (sic?) while Odin wielded it....to be beaten a few pages later, obviously, but not from the blast.

Properly written, though, the eyebeams shouldn't hurt Thor, unless he's dumb enough to drop his hammer like that scan. A purely physical confrontation would be Thanos' main option. Not all writers honored the "he can absorb things into Mjolnir via himself" though....but it was documented once and shown as a feat a couple times. I've used it in tourneys to frustrate a couple opponents.

@ your edit: meh, suppose so. Thor does have some long-range offense he could bring to bear. And I do think the 4 could dictate matchups relatively well. Clearly it's not a full-proof plan, but it was always only intended as a possible win, which I maintain that it is. There might even be some who say Surfer/Orion could two-man DS, giving Thor some help on defense.

Originally posted by Digi
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Well sure, if he loses Mjolnir...

Thanos' output isn't Odin's, though Thor has absorbed a blast from Gungir (sic?) while Odin wielded it....to be beaten a few pages later, obviously, but not from the blast.

Properly written, though, the eyebeams shouldn't hurt Thor, unless he's dumb enough to drop his hammer like that scan. A purely physical confrontation would be Thanos' main option.

@ your edit: meh, suppose so. Thor does have some long-range offense he could bring to bear. And I do think the 4 could dictate matchups relatively well. Clearly it's not a full-proof plan, but it was always only intended as a possible win, which I maintain that it is.

I know. It was more or less to show that Thor can get hit at close range even if he's fighting smart... which Thanos should do if all his blasts at long range are being absorbed.

He dropped his hammer because he was blasted. Also, the eyeblasts destroyed his Iron Man version clone, and easily ripped through the Punisher robots (who just one of them could give Surfer a challenge, and give the F4 hell) in recent times.
If Thanos is trying to make a purely physical contest, then he can still use blasts and eyeblasts, as that's the way he fights. It sets up Thor's defeat pretty easily if that happens.
Just for clarification though, I think Thor would hold Thanos off if it was long range, if Thor was fighting entirely out of character. However, this also sets up Thanos getting closer and closer, which, even out of character, he can still get tagged at close range, primarily by eyeblasts if I had to say what would hit him. Also by fists and such, but meh.

I don't know if opening up his defense would be wise, but anything he could pull of in between absorbing and attacking would do nothing on account of shields and Thanos' durability.
I could see Thanos hitting Hal, and Orion with a couple blasts though if Darkseid was right beside him to start, and they attempted to attack DS, and even more so if Thor was turtling at the other end of the battlefield...

There's a couple pertinent edits to what you linked of mine. No real arguments on your points, but I just think this was a writer who decided to ignore that particular power of Thor's. Forum battles do not, however, so I still say he would be absorbing the eyebeams if he was holding Mjolnir.

Some GL constructs could also plausibly aid with defense, varying upon how Orion/Surfer could do on their own with DS. The plan is not without at least some other options, however limited.

Originally posted by Digi
There's a couple pertinent edits to what you linked of mine. No real arguments on your points, but I just think this was a writer who decided to ignore that particular power of Thor's. Forum battles do not, however, so I still say he would be absorbing the eyebeams if he was holding Mjolnir.

Some GL constructs could also plausibly aid with defense, varying upon how Orion/Surfer could do on their own with DS. The plan is not without at least some other options, however limited.

Originally posted by Digi
Not all writers honored the "he can absorb things into Mjolnir via himself" though....but it was documented once and shown as a feat a couple times. I've used it in tourneys to frustrate a couple opponents.

Plausibly, but remember, this is the same guy who destroyed a Quasar construct that was holding off pretty much all of Earth's heroes. I don't know how well constructs would hold off.

Also, if he absorbs the eyeblasts at close range, then Thanos punches him?

Also, for battle plans, how about this:
Thanos puts a shield around him and Darkseid, and leaves a small opening for Darkseid to spam his OE out of?
Or, everything happens as it is seen in your eyes, but when DS is almost defeated, Thanos puts a shield around him, and heals him?

Originally posted by Blanket
Or, everything happens as it is seen in your eyes, but when DS is almost defeated, Thanos puts a shield around him, and heals him?

Originally posted by Blanket
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Does this mean he absorbed something hitting his body, and it went into Mjolnir? Seems as though he wouldn't never have to aim his hammer ever...
Still he would need to focus to do it, no?

They were energy blasts. One was lightning based and the other was just one of those generic large-ass laser looking blasts you see from a lot of characters. I had the scans on my cpu at one point, but it was years ago for a tourney. You'd probably have better luck in the respect thread. It would require focus though, yes, just like Mjolnir doesn't idly absorb blasts normally unless Thor wills it.

Originally posted by Blanket
Also, for battle plans, how about this:
Thanos puts a shield around him and Darkseid, and leaves a small opening for Darkseid to spam his OE out of?
Or, everything happens as it is seen in your eyes, but when DS is almost defeated, Thanos puts a shield around him, and heals him?

Well then yeah, that's a win for the duo.

Darkseid takes the majority by himself and proceeds killing Thanos. 🙂

Originally posted by aztec
Darkseid takes the majority by himself and proceeds killing Thanos. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on?

FEATS, DUH!! 😕

Darkseid posses godlike abilities Thanos wished he had!! He could easily disintegrate him with his Omega Effect. Case close. 😱

Originally posted by aztec
FEATS, DUH!! 😕

Darkseid posses godlike abilities Thanos wished he had!! He could easily disintegrate him with his Omega Effect. Case close. 😱

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds failed to beat DD with the omega effect. Supes has resisted it before and I have read writers say Superman can survive it. No one even close to Thanos' level has been beaten by it so I think it's safe to say Thanos tanks it.

those aren't low showings, though.

maybe superman and doomsday are just that durable.

Originally posted by -Pr-
those aren't low showings, though.

maybe superman and doomsday are just that durable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nowhere near Thanos level imo. I've seen far less rock Superman than the omega effect. Surfer is also very durable and most agree he's right up there with Superman yet Thanos can beat him to death quite easily.

not everyone agrees, though.

plus, norrin sucks in close combat.

Originally posted by -Pr-
not everyone agrees, though.

plus, norrin sucks in close combat.

Norrin is pretty powerful and his blasts make Thanos smile. That's durability. He also tanked Odin blasts which took out Drax and Surfer in one blast. The first blast looked like a 5 mph wind hit Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you saying both Superman and DD are in Thanos' league in durability?

Norrin is pretty powerful and his blasts make Thanos smile. That's durability. He also tanked Odin blasts which took out Drax and Surfer in one blast. The first blast looked like a 5 mph wind hit Thanos.

i don't recall saying one way or another.

i know how powerful norrin is.

he also lost to odin, so i wouldn't bring him up as an example.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i don't recall saying one way or another.

i know how powerful norrin is.

he also lost to odin, so i wouldn't bring him up as an example.

Team 1

Why do people assume that the guy that can create life from nothing is below Thanos? Darkseid >> Thanos IMO

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't defeated by Odin but why can't I use him as an example considering the first blast had no effect on him whereas it beat Norrin. That's durability.

he was. its one of the few thanos comics i've read. seemed plain as day to me.

because superman (who isn't even in this thread) and norrin aren't the same.