Originally posted by r0nm0n88I now get that he is invulnerable but with the feats(even if it is only one)that WBH has explain how juggs beats hulk.The only argument i've heard is "juggs just stand there well hulk beats on him for 1000 years and nothing happens.
blackbolt i dont think you are getting the whole completely invulnerable thing that juggs has.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I now get that he is invulnerable but with the feats(even if it is only one)that WBH has explain how juggs beats hulk.The only argument i've heard is "juggs just stand there well hulk beats on him for 1000 years and nothing happens.
Juggernaut is impervious to any physical damage.
Growing up as a kid I was amazed at his powerset, the only way the Xmen could ever put him down was to get the helmet off and telepathically blast him.
He has fought the Hulk before and Juggs smashed him.
WWH took advantage of an enchantment of his that propelled him to run far away from the battle.
Juggs won't fall for that again!
He will stand his ground and fight any incarnation of Hulk while walking and hit him as hard as Hulk can dish out.
Hulk can't hurt him even if he flips in the air over Cain's head and tears the helmet open. His head is still as impervious as the rest of his body to physical damage.
A learned Marko will win a rematch.
no juggs is also very strong, and has unstoppable momentum, all he has to do is run toward him, keep punching him with elite class 100 punches. and eventually tax his healing factor. i never said it will be fast, but it will happen eventually. I do realize that WBH will be hitting him with harder punchs but they will not even bother him.
Originally posted by the ninjakand people still don't answer the question...
Juggernaut is impervious to any physical damage.
Growing up as a kid I was amazed at his powerset, the only way the Xmen could ever put him down was to get the helmet off and telepathically blast him.
He has fought the Hulk before and Juggs smashed him.
WWH took advantage of an enchantment of his that propelled him to run far away from the battle.Juggs won't fall for that again!
He will stand his ground and fight any incarnation of Hulk while walking and hit him as hard as Hulk can dish out.
Hulk can't hurt him even if he flips in the air over Cain's head and tears the helmet open. His head is still as impervious as the rest of his body to physical damage.
A learned Marko will win a rematch.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
and people still don't answer the question...
"HOW DOES JUGGS HURT SOMEONE LIKE WBH"?!?!?!?!?!?EXPLIAN!!!!
Cool...
Well Hulk's physiology is based on Banner's subconscious primal desires. Resulting in a pissed off giant who believes he can't lose and is the strongest.
Once again resulting in a being of immense size in bulk, an unlimited strength potential based on how angry it gets, a healing factor that returns Hulk to its present state within around 2 or 3 seconds, WWH's unique knowledge of battle tactics and sudden sense of humble appreciation of his opponents abilities and finally WBH's insane level of power output.....releasing Gamma kinetic energy capable of shattering the ground and area that surrounds him.
Juggs knowing what Hulk did to him previously won't go running in for Hulk could just jump, grab his head and push him away..
Cain would now just walk slowly towards the enraged exploding Hulk and take the kinetic discharge until he is close enough to grab Hulks Skull or arms! Which he proceeds to squeeze. Hulk will try to escape his grip but Cain will hold on until Hulk tries to punch him off. To which Cain will then grab his Adam's apple and break it. Then Squeeze out his eyeballs etc.
If Cain can break Hulks windpipes for long enough and hold tight he can get Hulk back into Banner mode or a weaker Hulk where Cain just beats em down.
This is the only way I can see this fight ending without a stalemate or the planet shattering. 😕
Originally posted by the ninjakI don't think he is going to squeeze his adam's apple,windpipes,or eyes. ❌
Cool...
Well Hulk's physiology is based on Banner's subconscious primal desires. Resulting in a pissed off giant who believes he can't lose and is the strongest.
Once again resulting in a being of immense size in bulk, an unlimited strength potential based on how angry it gets, a healing factor that returns Hulk to its present state within around 2 or 3 seconds, WWH's unique knowledge of battle tactics and sudden sense of humble appreciation of his opponents abilities and finally WBH's insane level of power output.....releasing Gamma kinetic energy capable of shattering the ground and area that surrounds him.Juggs knowing what Hulk did to him previously won't go running in for Hulk could just jump, grab his head and push him away..
Cain would now just walk slowly towards the enraged exploding Hulk and take the kinetic discharge until he is close enough to grab Hulks Skull or arms! Which he proceeds to squeeze. Hulk will try to escape his grip but Cain will hold on until Hulk tries to punch him off. To which Cain will then grab his Adam's apple and break it. Then Squeeze out his eyeballs etc.
If Cain can break Hulks windpipes for long enough and hold tight he can get Hulk back into Banner mode or a weaker Hulk where Cain just beats em down.
This is the only way I can see this fight ending without a stalemate or the planet shattering. 😕
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I don't think he is going to squeeze his adam's apple,windpipes,or eyes. ❌
Unfortunately I agree.
Wolverine and X23 were able to rip his groin and eyes with ease but Cain only has blunt force ability.
As I stated it would have to end up as a grappling match with Cain standing his ground.
If only Cain had blades on his armour.
Hulk can't hurt Cain but Cain has a slight chance of crushing vital points to get an advantage.
In the end it's a stalemate 97%.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i doubt infinit strength would beat infinit durability
And if he does have infinite durability, that still kind of leaves it at a standstill because Hulk's durability and healing factor increases as well.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big Cbut isn't Cyrotakk the one doing the enchantment?Exactly what are his power levels.And yes juggs doesn't have INFINITE durability.It may be immensly powerful but not infinite.
i assume some one as powerful as him can over power the enchantment via magic. but using physical force will never work
Originally posted by McNasty996
wbh may be able to overload the gem if he gets
enough power
regardless of the deranged choir that sings the hymn of infinite durability, Juggernaut was slapped down quite easily by a creature will less strength than Hulk (Onslaught) and was facing decapitation at the hands of a lesser incarnation of Hulk (WarHulk) who used Celestial Tech (old, outdated and hacked by Apocalypse) to regulate his own energies so as to start off at a higher than normal level (normal being Savage Hulk). WarHulk was radiating gamma energies at a very modest level in comparison to WBH and WarHulk wasn't causing any damage to the planet through that energy release (unlike WBH) so ...
also, the WBH we saw in WWH is nothing but the fraction of what power lies dormant in Hulk. everything Rulk did, from punching out a Watcher to nearly killing OdinForce Thor, was done by using a portion of the energies WBH was emitting (The Intelligencia created all their initial batch of "Hulks" by siphoning WBH's energies).
basically WBH would flatten Juggernaut without much fuss, imo.