Why do people hate INDY 4 so much?

I have seen some shit in my day, and I don't think KOTCS qualifies.

I keep hearing "aliens that was so stupid."

And the "staying alive in the refrigerator was just so........that would never happen."

Hmm............ You people seemed to have no problem when Indy jumped out an airplane with a life raft and landed unscathed.

Or watching a guy get his heart ripped out and still be alive.

You can't stand aliens, but all of the religious and hocus pocus magic your fine with.

You could pick apart the first 3 if you wanted too.

After the nazis get the map to the holy grail, do they go immedietly after it? No, they go to berlin for no reason but to watch a book burning, then a military power house that was the nazis have to make a quick stop to some guy to get a tank. Why do they need a tank? They planning to run in to heavy artillary at the grail site? And why are they trying to schmooze this guy with gifts to get the tank? Its the Nazis, last I checked they wern't courteous to anyone.

But you know what, I don't care. These kinds of movies (Indy, star wars, star trek, ghost busters, Jurassic park, predator, aliens etc....)

They're supposed to be fun, and when you're kid, that's all you care about

*cracks knuckles*

*Arnold Toht voice* Now... where to start... 😈

Originally posted by queeq
*cracks knuckles*

*Arnold Toht voice* Now... where to start... 😈

Who's Arnold Toht?

That guy from Raiders Of The Lost Ark.

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I have seen some shit in my day, and I don't think KOTCS qualifies.

I keep hearing "aliens that was so stupid."

And the "staying alive in the refrigerator was just so........that would never happen."

Hmm............ You people seemed to have no problem when Indy jumped out an airplane with a life raft and landed unscathed.

Or watching a guy get his heart ripped out and still be alive.

You can't stand aliens, but all of the religious and hocus pocus magic your fine with.

You could pick apart the first 3 if you wanted too.

After the nazis get the map to the holy grail, do they go immedietly after it? No, they go to berlin for no reason but to watch a book burning, then a military power house that was the nazis have to make a quick stop to some guy to get a tank. Why do they need a tank? They planning to run in to heavy artillary at the grail site? And why are they trying to schmooze this guy with gifts to get the tank? Its the Nazis, last I checked they wern't courteous to anyone.

But you know what, I don't care. These kinds of movies (Indy, star wars, star trek, ghost busters, Jurassic park, predator, aliens etc....)

They're supposed to be fun, and when you're kid, that's all you care about

You're right and all... but the thing that made Indy 4 suck more than anything else was the nuclear explosion and the refridgerator. If Indy could survive that in the first ten or so minutes, then what the hell are we watching the rest of the movie for? I say, surviving a nuclear bomb trumps any other obstacle that comes your way.

When I first saw that... I immediately thought about the Fonz jumping over the shark. Total POS move

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Who's Arnold Toht?

*face palm*

Meant to be fun...yes. Thats why we were so disappointed.

Shia LeBeouf being groomed as the new Indy.

Comedy f***ing gophers lowering the tone to bad-comedy levels.

Badly written script and dialogue.

The alien involvement, if kept subtle could have worked great if they had kept the aliens more mysterious, and maybe not actually have shown the whole ship thing and left more to the imagination. I hate religion. I had more reason, on paper, to buy the Aliens storyline.
Weve seen aliens before. WAY better ones. If the plot hadn't be handled by mentally disadvantaged baboons on crack, it couldve been great.

The imposed slapstick "Oh Im told old for this" shit... When Indy crashes through that Nazi windshield on his whip in the warehouse and he pauses to deliver his commentary on his landing to (presumably) the nazi drivers, they'd have shot him in the time he takes to say it..
It stank of talk-to-the-audience comedy.

Deeply uncharismatic/unmemorable villains.

Too much f***ing around with "Oooooh is Mac good or bad, good or bad, good or bad, good or ba-----" ahhhhh who gives a f*** by the eighty nineth switch..?

John Hurt's career-embarrassment.
His character was a tool, was badly written and was forced to talk shit.
Hurt, Winstone and Blanchett deserve more than that.

CGI monkeys. CGI ships, WTF.

Deeply unconvincing action that leaves the viewer yawning.
At no point did I ever feel Indy, his son, Marion or anyone else was in danger.
No peril: Boring f***ing movie.

The fridge was absolutely ridiculous and was just another faeces cherry on the faecal cake. Raiders had one foot on the ground...as well as the other in the clouds... The writers of IV had their heads way too far up their own erm.. clouds....they clearly have been up there so long, that they missed the release of the 1st three movies.

Marion Ravenwood. Classic character ruined forever on screen when she becomes braindead insipid comedy mother 43,328.

The wedding...W......T.......F. Thats the ending to "Meet the Fokkers", not an Indiana Jones movie.... The whole "you can't wear that hat...yet.." shit with Lebouf...

It all felt like watching Han Solo change his colostomy bag then plan to die while cries himself to sleep with loneliness that the kids dont see him anymore since Leia died.. Horrible Horrible Horrible.
This after we were promised and teased that we would see a great movie with our hero kicking some ass, taking names, escaping real peril at every turn and maybe electrifying the audience...but noooooooooooooooooo.

Its was a blatant soulless cashcow...the first of its kind, Indy movieswise...
And coincidentally, the 1st of a new modern era trilogy. Geee. What a surprise.

These are a few reasons for what it is so hated.

Well it must'nt be that bad of a movie if it has a 77% rating over on Rotten Tomatoes

there's far worst movies then it

and of course i liked it which i've mentioned plenty of times but eh each to their own.

It's not a bad movie. But it is a rather bad Indy movie.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Meant to be fun...yes. Thats why we were so disappointed.

Shia LeBeouf being groomed as the new Indy.

Comedy f***ing gophers lowering the tone to bad-comedy levels.

Badly written script and dialogue.

The alien involvement, if kept subtle could have worked great if they had kept the aliens more mysterious, and maybe not actually have shown the whole ship thing and left more to the imagination. I hate religion. I had more reason, on paper, to buy the Aliens storyline.
Weve seen aliens before. WAY better ones. If the plot hadn't be handled by mentally disadvantaged baboons on crack, it couldve been great.

The imposed slapstick "Oh Im told old for this" shit... When Indy crashes through that Nazi windshield on his whip in the warehouse and he pauses to deliver his commentary on his landing to (presumably) the nazi drivers, they'd have shot him in the time he takes to say it..
It stank of talk-to-the-audience comedy.

Deeply uncharismatic/unmemorable villains.

Too much f***ing around with "Oooooh is Mac good or bad, good or bad, good or bad, good or ba-----" ahhhhh who gives a f*** by the eighty nineth switch..?

John Hurt's career-embarrassment.
His character was a tool, was badly written and was forced to talk shit.
Hurt, Winstone and Blanchett deserve more than that.

CGI monkeys. CGI ships, WTF.

Deeply unconvincing action that leaves the viewer yawning.
At no point did I ever feel Indy, his son, Marion or anyone else was in danger.
No peril: Boring f***ing movie.

The fridge was absolutely ridiculous and was just another faeces cherry on the faecal cake. Raiders had one foot on the ground...as well as the other in the clouds... The writers of IV had their heads way too far up their own erm.. clouds....they clearly have been up there so long, that they missed the release of the 1st three movies.

Marion Ravenwood. Classic character ruined forever on screen when she becomes braindead insipid comedy mother 43,328.

The wedding...W......T.......F. Thats the ending to "Meet the Fokkers", not an Indiana Jones movie.... The whole "you can't wear that hat...yet.." shit with Lebouf...

It all felt like watching Han Solo change his colostomy bag then plan to die while cries himself to sleep with loneliness that the kids dont see him anymore since Leia died.. Horrible Horrible Horrible.
This after we were promised and teased that we would see a great movie with our hero kicking some ass, taking names, escaping real peril at every turn and maybe electrifying the audience...but noooooooooooooooooo.

Its was a blatant soulless cashcow...the first of its kind, Indy movieswise...
And coincidentally, the 1st of a new modern era trilogy. Geee. What a surprise.

These are a few reasons for what it is so hated.

Quite an extensive list.

Originally posted by queeq
It's not a bad movie. But it is a rather bad Indy movie.

Thats (despite my list) quite true... (if you assume that the other franchise it would comfortably fit would have to be a verrrry banal series indeed.)

It would have fit nicely in the Mummy-franchise or the National Treasure franchise.

I only have one thing to say

YouTube video

Yup lolz

Errr...

A truely watershed moment.

But... why?

Cause it was the moment that a convincing fabric of fiction snapped and become a silly, ill advised move that pissed on the form of all that made it great before that point. Remind you of anything else...?

Indy IV? Just a wild guess...

You must be psychic.

I must be...