Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you dense? His power wasn't from the Source (not directly anyhow, though he was trying to take the Source's power anyway) it was from the synergy of all the New Gods combined in one.
And besides, even if it was from The Source and only the source, isn't the point of this fight to have Darkseid with the same power levels as his peak, against Galactus?
It's not a scenerio match, it's a "Pit these two characters against each other, and presume they're at X level of power".
Originally posted by cdtm
And besides, even if it was from The Source and only the source, isn't the point of this fight to have Darkseid with the same power levels as his peak, against Galactus?It's not a scenerio match, it's a "Pit these two characters against each other, and presume they're at X level of power".
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus was indeed ambushed by big T&A. IDK if Galactus was about to feed or not. Took me a long time to find the comic, and the first scene with them was their fight with Galactus, no talking or whatever.
So? Them not talking in a fight equates to them being surprised? Is that your argument? They weren't talking because Extirpia is recalling the fight she saw and narrating the fight. Galactus had already been captured when Extirpia told Starlord and Nova.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus doesn't have onesided prep. Gaalctus could defeat him with prep. I also think Galactus could hold his own against the Source anyways.
Of course, Galactus doesn't have prep. It says Soulfire Darkseid Vs. Galactus in the first post. Do you have a reading comprehension? Darkseid has taken the Soulfire formula already. Galactus doesn't have prep. Whether Galactus has prep against the Source or not doesn't matter because that's not who he's fighting here.
No. Galactus couldn't beat Agamotto or Tenebrous. He isn't beating SF Darkseid. Remember, Galactus got rocked by Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So when another being merged with it? This is your proof? Where is your proof of the Source on his own.
So your point is that you're dense right? Well, the entire board already knows this.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Thanos didn't hurt Galactus.
Not really of course. But Quanchi loves to use that feat in favor of Thanos. Just using it against Quanchi here.
Galactus had defeated T&A before.
But we don't know how. He could've had tons of prep. We do know T&A are Galactus' equals and proved it on panel.
Agamotto got lucky, Galactus didn't start to devour his realm.
Agamotto isn't Mephisto. Strange even admitted Galactus didn't know what he was getting into and that he was in danger. Galactus wasn't beating Agamotto. Devouring a realm if he could would be the only way he'd win because he was only able to stalemate Agamotto.
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou are using another being entirely to justify the Source's power. I guess you can't even tell me what the Source has done on his own to justify such claims.
I'm saying that the Spectre merged with the Source and discovered power far beyond his own.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingPrep is very important to why Darkseid did what he did. It caught the Source completely off guard that's why the entire event happened. I mean please it's stated plain as day.
So? Them not talking in a fight equates to them being surprised? Is that your argument? They weren't talking because Extirpia is recalling the fight she saw and narrating the fight. Galactus had already been captured when Extirpia told Starlord and Nova.Of course, Galactus doesn't have prep. It says Soulfire Darkseid Vs. Galactus in the first post. Do you have a reading comprehension? Darkseid has taken the Soulfire formula already. Galactus doesn't have prep. Whether Galactus has prep against the Source or not doesn't matter because that's not who he's fighting here.
No. Galactus couldn't beat Agamotto or Tenebrous. He isn't beating SF Darkseid. Remember, Galactus got rocked by Thanos.
So your point is that you're dense right? Well, the entire board already knows this.
Galactus has beaten them before and like I said he was caught unaware by them the second time around. His herald later dealt with them after Galactus was freed. What does not beating Agamotto have to do with anything? Really?
Me dense? Surely you jest. The point is when asked about the Source's proof he gave me an example of the Source merged with someone else really powerful meaning it's irrelevant.
Also Thanos showed how much power he gained not that he could defeat Galactus. It's funny that you talk about my reading comprehension and then spew forth this ignorance.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingI don't apply bias to any feat. It is what it is whereas I didn't misrepresent anything while you just were caught.
Not really of course. But Quanchi loves to use that feat in favor of Thanos. Just using it against Quanchi here.But we don't know how. He could've had tons of prep. We do know T&A are Galactus' equals and proved it on panel.
Agamotto isn't Mephisto. Strange even admitted Galactus didn't know what he was getting into and that he was in danger. Galactus wasn't beating Agamotto. Devouring a realm if he could would be the only way he'd win because he was only able to stalemate Agamotto.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Me dense? Surely you jest. The point is when asked about the Source's proof he gave me an example of the Source merged with someone else really powerful meaning it's irrelevant.
It's a little more complicated than that...
Basically, The Spectre was searching God, who disappeared from the gates of heaven. This was at the end of Ostranders Spectre run, and was basically a lesson in theology.
Spectre insisted to other Pantheons and cosmics of different religions that his was the one, true supreme being. But the other gods believe a supreme being can take any aspect, and even be several aspects, and that ALL of the creation myths can be correct at the SAME TIME.
The Source could simply be an aspect of The Presence, or The Presence can be part of other creation myths..
So, Spectre went into The Source Wall himself, and the hand of the source wrote to him, telling him where to go next on his mission. But that wasn't good enough for The Spectre, who demanded The Source reveal what happened in Heaven and reveal it's true nature to him.
And The Source showed him it's true nature.. It either merged with him, or handed over it's power, and Spectre found himself containing the sum of creation.. He could feel "everything", see "everything". Feel the first moment of the Big Bang, feel the universe growing, count each individual atom in the universe... It was overwhelming, even to him. And he even could have destroyed all life, to stop evil once and for all by extinguishing even the possibility of committing evil acts, if not for Corrigan stopping him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are using another being entirely to justify the Source's power. I guess you can't even tell me what the Source has done on his own to justify such claims.Prep is very important to why Darkseid did what he did. It caught the Source completely off guard that's why the entire event happened. I mean please it's stated plain as day.
No. They fought and then he binded him. The Source couldn't beat Darkseid in a fight. It needed a distraction.
Galactus has beaten them before and like I said he was caught unaware by them the second time around. His herald later dealt with them after Galactus was freed. What does not beating Agamotto have to do with anything? Really?
Proof? I have the books. So why are you acting as if you know something I don't? Like I said you're dense. Show scans or shut up. You sound like Galacticstorm going around in circles. Caught off guard my butt.
That he couldn't beat Agamotto, a being below the Source in power.
Me dense? Surely you jest. The point is when asked about the Source's proof he gave me an example of the Source merged with someone else really powerful meaning it's irrelevant.
It's the Source. If you don't know about the Source, how is that my problem? What next? You're going to say Galactus can beat the Presence as well?
Also Thanos showed how much power he gained not that he could defeat Galactus. It's funny that you talk about my reading comprehension and then spew forth this ignorance.I don't apply bias to any feat. It is what it is whereas I didn't misrepresent anything while you just were caught.
LMAO. You're as much of a fanboy as Galacticstorm and Nvr. Let's not pretend you're not.
Originally posted by cdtmWe've seen the Source and he isn't the presence nor is he a being merged with the Spectre so I fail to see the point of this example.
It's a little more complicated than that...Basically, The Spectre was searching God, who disappeared from the gates of heaven. This was at the end of Ostranders Spectre run, and was basically a lesson in theology.
Spectre insisted to other Pantheons and cosmics of different religions that his was the one, true supreme being. But the other gods believe a supreme being can take any aspect, and even be several aspects, and that ALL of the creation myths can be correct at the SAME TIME.
The Source could simply be an aspect of The Presence, or The Presence can be part of other creation myths..
So, Spectre went into The Source Wall himself, and the hand of the source wrote to him, telling him where to go next on his mission. But that wasn't good enough for The Spectre, who demanded The Source reveal what happened in Heaven and reveal it's true nature to him.
And The Source showed him it's true nature.. It either merged with him, or handed over it's power, and Spectre found himself containing the sum of creation.. He could feel "everything", see "everything". Feel the first moment of the Big Bang, feel the universe growing, count each individual atom in the universe... It was overwhelming, even to him. And he even could have destroyed all life, to stop evil once and for all by extinguishing even the possibility of committing evil acts, if not for Corrigan stopping him.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingBecause the fact darkseid prepped against him.
No. They fought and then he binded him. The Source couldn't beat Darkseid in a fight. It needed a distraction.Proof? I have the books. So why are you acting as if you know something I don't? Like I said you're dense. Show scans or shut up. You sound like Galacticstorm going around in circles. Caught off guard my butt.
That he couldn't beat Agamotto, a being below the Source in power.
It's the Source. If you don't know about the Source, how is that my problem? What next? You're going to say Galactus can beat the Presence as well?
LMAO. You're as much of a fanboy as Galacticstorm and Nvr. Let's not pretend you're not.
I could care less about you saying I am dense. You are someone who is practically invisible on this board so I feel for you.
So are you saying Galactus was aware they were going to attack him?
How is the Source greater in power? That's like saying Thor cannot beat herc even though based on his power showings we know he can kill him quite easily when he brings his best. Galactus wins if he brings his best.
The Source isn't the presence nor is it supreme. We saw Darkseid amp himself and prep to specifically counter the Source. I don't see darkseid being anything more than a gnat to the presence even with prep.
Listen don't bash other members who aren't here to defend themselves poster who doesn't stand out at all. If you continue to misrepresent scans in your side's favor that makes you biased. I am not.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen the Source and he isn't the presence nor is he a being merged with the Spectre so I fail to see the point of this example.Because the fact darkseid prepped against him.
Of course he prepped. He took the SF formula and trapped the Source during their fight. This is that same Darkseid against Galactus. You do have a reading comprehension. LOL.
I could care less about you saying I am dense. You are someone who is practically invisible on this board so I feel for you.
Yup, how can I compare to the forum troll? You're the biggest attention whore in this board. Sometimes I think you intentionally troll with your stupid nonsense to have board members talk to you. And I don't need your pity because your annoyance is already over bearing. Thus I don't need anything from you.
So are you saying Galactus was aware they were going to attack him?
He wasn't? I could've sworn he was the one to trap them. And the third issue of Silver Surfer, Galactus spent atleast two pages briefing Surfer on the two escape and how he can feel them and that's why he enlisted Surfer. But you want to argue Galactus wasn't aware? LMAO
How is the Source greater in power? That's like saying Thor cannot beat herc even though based on his power showings we know he can kill him quite easily when he brings his best. Galactus wins if he brings his best.
LOL. The Source' other half, the Anti-Life Entity was powerful enough to destroy a universe. Galactus needs his best days to destroy a universe. Even in annihilation, it's his death that would unleash this kind of power. So unless he plans on killing himself, he isn't even a match for half of the Source. His great fights had him struggling against Tyrant and Tenebrous.
The Source isn't the presence nor is it supreme. We saw Darkseid amp himself and prep to specifically counter the Source. I don't see darkseid being anything more than a gnat to the presence even with prep.
One half of the Source is far more powerful than Galactus so I don't see why you're going around in circles. LOL. And thank goodness, Galactus isn't the Presence, the Source, or the Anti-Life Entity. He's simply below them.
Listen don't bash other members who aren't here to defend themselves poster who doesn't stand out at all. If you continue to misrepresent scans in your side's favor that makes you biased. I am not.
LOL. You act as if you give a sh!t about either of these posters. You're here and defending isn't what you're doing. I see a lot whining though.
Misrepresent what scan? What scan did you provide? There's not even one scan in this thread. LMAO. Secondly, SF Darkseid fought and trapped the Source and yet you go in circles about nonsense that has nothing to do with this fight. Thirdly, you're the one to try and pass off Galactus being unaware of T&A when there's on panel statements that he was prepping to fight them even before they made that deal with Thanos.
SF Darkseid 11/10
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingSource freed himself from the trap on his own at the end of the arc. I guess you don't have a clue.
Of course he prepped. He took the SF formula and trapped the Source during their fight. This is that same Darkseid against Galactus. You do have a reading comprehension. LOL.Yup, how can I compare to the forum troll? You're the biggest attention whore in this board. Sometimes I think you intentionally troll with your stupid nonsense to have board members talk to you. And I don't need your pity because your annoyance is already over bearing. Thus I don't need anything from you.
He wasn't? I could've sworn he was the one to trap them. And the third issue of Silver Surfer, Galactus spent atleast two pages briefing Surfer on the two escape and how he can feel them and that's why he enlisted Surfer. But you want to argue Galactus wasn't aware? LMAO
LOL. The Source' other half, the Anti-Life Entity was powerful enough to destroy a universe. Galactus needs his best days to destroy a universe. Even in annihilation, it's his death that would unleash this kind of power. So unless he plans on killing himself, he isn't even a match for half of the Source. His great fights had him struggling against Tyrant and Tenebrous.
One half of the Source is far more powerful than Galactus so I don't see why you're going around in circles. LOL. And thank goodness, Galactus isn't the Presence, the Source, or the Anti-Life Entity. He's simply below them.
LOL. You act as if you give a sh!t about either of these posters. You're here and defending isn't what you're doing. I see a lot whining though.
Misrepresent what scan? What scan did you provide? There's not even one scan in this thread. LMAO. Secondly, SF Darkseid fought and trapped the Source and yet you go in circles about nonsense that has nothing to do with this fight. Thirdly, you're the one to try and pass off Galactus being unaware of T&A when there's on panel statements that he was prepping to fight them even before they made that deal with Thanos.
SF Darkseid 11/10
I make my own arguments and if I were here for attention which I am not why would you give me attention? The funny thing is you call me dense when you don't even know the difference between physically destroyed and ko'd.
I see since you want to dismiss the very obvious and continue to act like he wasn't cheapshotted and double teamed by two beings who were pretty much equal to Galactus in power then I have no choice but to put the scans up.
That's called a cheapshot which resulted in their victory.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation1-029.jpg
Galactus can use the un to destroy the multi with the press of a button so I fail to see your point here. You seem hell bent on ignoring Galactus' abilities and what not to prove a point. Galactus was defeated by two beings with equal power to him and by a cheapshot. Darkseid ran off by one equal in Orion tapping into the same power. Yeah, even in his own comic he didn't show anywhere near the power that Galactus has been shown capable of. Affecting other dimensions is something Odin can do and blowing up ten miles o fspace on apokolips doesn't come close to a weakened Galactus blowing up 3 plus star systems.
You have nothing. The facts like usual back me up.
How is one half of the Source more powerful than Galactus? Based on what? When does Galactus go around wanting to destroy the universe? really? Please go on.
You are the one making personal attacks and you need to relax. It's just comics and don't be a poor loser here. Put up or shut up.
Someone else called you out on the Thanoas blast and you even admitted you will say anything to try to get to me. Stick to the characters and use facts not statements or insults.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Source freed himself from the trap on his own at the end of the arc. I guess you don't have a clue.
Of course he managed to free himself after Darkseid was distracted, but I guess you're going ignore that.
I make my own arguments and if I were here for attention which I am not why would you give me attention? The funny thing is you call me dense when you don't even know the difference between physically destroyed and ko'd.
LOL. You're just pissed because Oblivion got his ass handed to him by Iceman, while it take the embodiment of life to temporarily beat Nekron.
I see since you want to dismiss the very obvious and continue to act like he wasn't cheapshotted and double teamed by two beings who were pretty much equal to Galactus in power then I have no choice but to put the scans up.
LMAO. When did I argued T&A kicked his ass? Go back and look through because my argument was that he only managed to stalemate Tenebrous. Therefore, how is he beating someone that manage to fight the Source and trap it?
That's called a cheapshot which resulted in their victory.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Annihilation1-029.jpg
LOL. That's not what you we're claiming. First off, what does that scan have to do with anything? Aegis tipped the balance because Tenebrous and Galactus were evenly matched. Your scan only backs up Galactus' claim that they're his equal because just one clear shot from Aegis took Galactus down. Secondly, here was your argument earlier.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So are you saying Galactus was aware they were going to attack him?
Galactus was aware of Tenebrous and still couldn't beat him in a fight. SF Darkseid is going to stomp him.
Galactus can use the un to destroy the multi with the press of a button so I fail to see your point here. You seem hell bent on ignoring Galactus' abilities and what not to prove a point.
The UN isn't included in this fight and so yet again you prove your inability to read and understand.
Galactus was defeated by two beings with equal power to him and by a cheapshot.
So you agree with me than that Galactus only stalemated Tenebrous. LOL. Nowhere did I argue that Galactus lost to T&A.
Darkseid ran off by one equal in Orion tapping into the same power. Yeah, even in his own comic he didn't show anywhere near the power that Galactus has been shown capable of.
Yup, Orion managed to tap into the same power Darkseid had. Galactus isn't Orion so he isn't going to defeat Darkseid the same way.
Affecting other dimensions is something Odin can do and blowing up ten miles o fspace on apokolips doesn't come close to a weakened Galactus blowing up 3 plus star systems.
LOL. And neither was able to stalemate a supreme being like the Source. And during the IG, Odin got his bridge destroyed and couldn't go anywhere while Galactus got stomped even with assistance. They came nowhere near the remnant power of the Infinity Being so they aren't doing anything close to Darkseid.
You have nothing. The facts like usual back me up.
LMAO. Coming from you? LMAO!!
How is one half of the Source more powerful than Galactus? Based on what? When does Galactus go around wanting to destroy the universe? really? Please go on.
When has he ever displayed power close to that? Even when fighting the IG, his power never came close to that. And as I recalled, he was leading the charge and still didn't show that kind of power. So thanks for playing. He doesn't do so because it's not at his disposal unless he kills himself or pulls out the UN.
You are the one making personal attacks and you need to relax. It's just comics and don't be a poor loser here. Put up or shut up.Someone else called you out on the Thanoas blast and you even admitted you will say anything to try to get to me. Stick to the characters and use facts not statements or insults.
I did put up, yet you still haven't shut up. LOL.
Originally posted by x_danny_x
what is this UN that you guys talk about Galactus having??
Ultimate Nulliifier. A personal toy of Galactus, and it was the Deus Ex Mechanica that allowed the Fantastic Four to drive Galactus off the first time. Capable of basically erasing entire universes, or un-erasing them. Same for cosmics, abstracts, individuals...
