Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hercules did. Hyperion held two infinities apart. Billy held a book
Ultraman lifted that same book, with ease...
Originally posted by carver9
Ultraman lifted that same book, with ease...
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Originally posted by carver9
Ultraman lifted that same book, with ease...
cool, so Ultraman also two-shots Hyperion and Blue Marvel
cos you know... there are 2 of them
glad we agree
Originally posted by MrMind1. Billy has literally never been shown to have Superman's "all out strength". There's a reason behind why Clark regularly solves all of the Universe's problems and Billy doesn't.
how does the feat not transfer when they are all proven by feats exact equal in strength? CM=(stalemate in armwrestle) Mainstream Superman = CM exact counterpart from another universeit's like I'm dealing with people who cannot turn their brain around
sdurug indeed
2. Billy isn't nearly as impressive as Superman. Remember that scene where Superboy Prime laughed off Black Adam (Billy's equal) and then casually backhanded his ass away? Yeah, Clark actually looked far more impressive than Billy's worst enemy. Hell, even Superboy managed to look more impressive than Adam....
3. Are you honestly about to stand here and pretend that Clark even needed Billy to lift that book? Again, Clark is the one that goes around punching out celestial gods, not Billy. Clark is the one that people call on to move planets around, not Billy.
4. If you honestly feel that it's appropriate to list the "feats" of an alternate reality version of Billy, then we can easily bring up his Kingdom Come incarnation. He actually jumped Superman in that comic, went all out against him while he was trying not to fight back and still lost. Your statement that "Captain Marvel is Captain Marvel" seems to work against you.....
Originally posted by MrMind
are you retarded? did BM show exact equal in strength to Hyperion? like arm wrestling for half a day stalemating? also we are only talking about strength here you troll
This thread is about a fight. Thor arm wrestled Hercules for such a period. So Thor has the feat of holding up the universe right?
Originally posted by deathslash
1. Billy has literally never been shown to have Superman's "all out strength". There's a reason behind why Clark regularly solves all of the Universe's problems and Billy doesn't.2. Billy isn't nearly as impressive as Superman. Remember that scene where Superboy Prime laughed off Black Adam (Billy's equal) and then casually backhanded his ass away? Yeah, Clark actually looked far more impressive than Billy's worst enemy. Hell, even Superboy managed to look more impressive than Adam....
3. Are you honestly about to stand here and pretend that Clark even needed Billy to lift that book? Again, Clark is the one that goes around punching out celestial gods, not Billy. Clark is the one that people call on to move planets around, not Billy.
4. If you honestly feel that it's appropriate to list the "feats" of an alternate reality version of Billy, then we can easily bring up his Kingdom Come incarnation. He actually jumped Superman in that comic, went all out against him while he was trying not to fight back and still lost. Your statement that "Captain Marvel is Captain Marvel" seems to work against you.....
armwrestling is THE BEST WAY to show strength, they stalemated once, the other time CM only lost because the other marvel family powered up to take his strength away. it was even written on panel they are equal in strength, how is it not indication enough?
Let's compare feats then, I'll list top feats for both, let's see who's more impressive, not just strength btw
CM punches so hard accidently form black hole
http://i.imgur.com/xEFtc7i.jpg
BM lifts a meteor the size of kansas lol
http://i.imgur.com/ymyFOzf.png
CM and Lobo rocked the Cosmo (universe) with their battle
http://i.imgur.com/ldcIEJ4.jpg
BM sends Sentry to the orbit, not bad...but not even in the same magnitude
http://i.imgur.com/ldcIEJ4.jpg
CM calls Flash a slowpoke, keeping up with him as well
http://i.imgur.com/TotY6bS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2tUmCf.jpg
blitz superman
http://i.imgur.com/Icg5TtK.jpg
BM keeping up with nova, good but not flash level, and he has very few speed feats, especially combat speed
http://i.imgur.com/JLwpfti.png
also CM has magic, turns sand soldiers to glass
https://imgur.com/a/WRYWU#0
freaking time travel
http://i.imgur.com/TnfrTcN.jpg
not getting one-shotted by spectre
http://i.imgur.com/yMxcm3J.jpg
BM tanks hydrogen bomb, good feats but something most low heralds are capable of
http://i.imgur.com/PR10cgW.png
CM knocks out superman, sorta cheap shot but still impressive
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7015/2270730-captain_marvel_vs_superman_01.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7015/2270731-captain_marvel_vs_superman_02.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7015/2270732-captain_marvel_vs_superman_03.jpg
Supes consider Billy to be his equal
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/7015/2270739-superman_experiencing_captain_marvel_s_power_08.jpg
BEHOLD, CM faster than the freakin Flash
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251510
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251500
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251501
CM blitzes bizarro and the rest of villains, damn
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251566
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251568
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251572
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-2251573
their speed are not on the same ball park, BM is way too slow. and CM knows magic, adding that to faster, stronger... well you know the outcome
Strength? I thought that this was a fight? I once saw the strongest man in the world at that ime, get beaten up in a real MMA fight. Why is strength alone supposed to be the determining factor here? It's not as if Adam is weak or anything, but why make this the focus instead of skill? Has Billy ever defeated a Hyperion level opponent? I recall him breaking even with Lobo, but that wasn't a clear victory.
When was Adams speed quantified again?
well the feats I listed are not just strength...there were also speed and magic as well
now more
lightning attack harming obsidian who is a team busting trans level character with hax abilities
http://i.imgur.com/pNr5FnB.jpg
lightning capable of breaking JL away from Neron's( a skyfather) control
http://i.imgur.com/7YbLlOY.jpg
wisdom of solomun makes him a genius stradegist who can know his opponent before the fight starts
http://i.imgur.com/xJhRNZC.jpg
fighting toon force just for lulz
http://i.imgur.com/GZddibr.jpg
finally durability, takes possessed superman's punches with no damage at all
https://imgur.com/a/gCzuK
survives a tesseract bomb that turns him inside out, but was fine afterwards because of magic, WTF, that's lobo level regen ability
http://i.imgur.com/CdUkPQv.jpg
Like I said CM outclasses BM in every single area, you guys are welcome to post feats to prove otherwise
