i disagree. its simple but effective, and sounds dope especially over that beat. think thats what i like about that song, its on some grimey LOX type beat and he still does his thing
Originally posted by Darth Martinwell yea, thats why i enjoyed listening to no ceilings like once or twice. just to see someone actually put those commercial beats to work. swag surfin is prolly the only track i actually go back and listen to.
Some people like Tha Carter. I don't.For me, No Ceilings>Dedication 2
I don't like every track on No Ceilings. But for most of the songs that were from other artists, he came harder than they did. Swag Surf is my favorite. The mixtape is 22 songs I believe. I like about 6-7 of them.
Although he does lay down some mean wordplay on the track "Cannon".
either way, im not a huge wayne fan or anything i just think he gets shitted on unfairly by internet fans who hate anything trendy or popular. you can't class him in the same group as soulja boy or those niggas that wrote swag surfin... he actually has pride in his craft and has a hell of a work ethic and i respect that. even if i dont really play most of those mixtapes.
He puts out a shitload of music every year. Most of it is garbage.
If that's what you call work ethic......
I'd rather listen to someone who puts out one great album/mixtape: J.Cole, Kid Cudi, etc. than someone like Wayne who puts out around 10 mixtapes/albums a year and most if not all of it is trash.
He has some good stuff, sure, but I'm not going to go weed out of 100 tracks for 5 that I like.
he puts out a shitload of mixtapes, some of which are dope, most are mediocre... and some are straight garbage. you don't like any of his stuff besides one album and one mixtape that i think was pretty mediocre. clearly we're not in agreement as to how much of his music is garbage or even which of his music is garbage.
what i respect is that he is gunning for the throne. i don't think he's the best but i respect the fact that he's trying. i feel like he always tried his best to re define himself and that a lot of the time it doensn't work out too well, but once in a while he can strike gold. mixtapes are mostly promotion anyway and are meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
as for j cole, dude can put together a mixtape or two, but thats no real feat. tons of rappers can put out a decent mixtape. one thing that separates weezy from j cole is that wayne has a distinct style. there's really nothing in his style separating j cole from the thousands of other mediocre-to-dope mixtape emcees on the internet. i actually would like to see him do well but as of right now i dont think its the best comparison to make... since j cole has really yet to prove himself
Originally posted by red g jacks
he puts out a shitload of mixtapes, some of which are dope, most are mediocre... and some are straight garbage. you don't like any of his stuff besides one album and one mixtape that i think was pretty mediocre. clearly we're not in agreement as to how much of his music is garbage or even which of his music is garbage.what i respect is that he is gunning for the throne. i don't think he's the best but i respect the fact that he's trying. i feel like he always tried his best to re define himself and that a lot of the time it doensn't work out too well, but once in a while he can strike gold. mixtapes are mostly promotion anyway and are meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
as for j cole, dude can put together a mixtape or two, but thats no real feat. tons of rappers can put out a decent mixtape. one thing that separates weezy from j cole is that wayne has a distinct style. there's really nothing in his style separating j cole from the thousands of other mediocre-to-dope mixtape emcees on the internet. i actually would like to see him do well but as of right now i dont think its the best comparison to make... since j cole has really yet to prove himself
1.Your correct; we are not in agreement.......at all.
2.What throne? Best now or ever? It's impossible for him to be either.
3.The Warm Up>Wayne's career.
How has J. Cole yet to prove himself? The Come Up was solid and The Warm Up was out of the this world good. Quite possibly the best mixtape I have ever heard. His skills dwarf that of Wayne's. Wayne isn't even the best artist in his own label. When has Wayne put out anything that compares to The Warm Up or Kid Cudi's debut album?