Nidoking vs Tyranitar

Started by yung_link51 pages

whats wrong with the stats above...ty has an obvious advantage...dont want him 2 lose?
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either way tho Brick Break means the end 4 ty...300 damage + nido's 100+ atk - ty's def = 1 hit KO

Bulbapedia is a reliable source, or Serebii.net. Especially when compared to some persons altered EV and IV pokemon from an unknown source 😐 Use base stats.

You times and divide not plus and minus. And Avalanche, 417...

Originally posted by BloodRain
Bulbapedia is a reliable source, or Serebii.net. Especially when compared to some persons altered EV and IV pokemon from an unknown source 😐 Use base stats.

You times and divide not plus and minus. And Avalanche, 417...

Alrite i'll use these base stats, assuming they're both @ Lv.50

Lv.50 Tyranitar(no such thing btw)
HP:100
Atk:134
Def:110
Sp.Atk:95
Sp.Def:100
Speed:61

Lv.50 Nidoking
HP:81
Atk:92
Def:77
Sp.Atk:85
Sp.Def:75
Speed:85

is that better?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ill space it out for ya:
((Brickbreak 75 x Nidokings 92 attack) ÷ Tyranitars 110 defence) x 4 for weakness = 250

well i got the base stats, used the right formula, & now i'm sure nido would slaughter ty in 1 turn. c the math u did up there? c ty's base HP? yea big difference isnt it? nido ftw

edit: numbers dont lie

I'm not sure why I used stats in this thread. 😐

I spent a couple posts in another thread saying they were just part of the gameplay.

well i incorporated lvl's in2 this thread so stats were bound 2 appear...

Good point. This presents the possibility that it was not my fault. 👆

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1. Those arnt Lv 50 stats
2. My formula is to show the attack power to compare attacks only, it doesnt show the damage inflicted. Actual damage calcs show that its still standing. Not that its needed as we're not making them fight by perfect game rules eg not turn based, more sentient skills. That sentiant part allows these pokemon to act different eg dodge, counter etc

Originally posted by BloodRain
1. Those arnt Lv 50 stats
2. My formula is to show the attack power to compare attacks only, it doesnt show the damage inflicted. Actual damage calcs show that its still standing. Not that its needed as we're not making them fight by perfect game rules eg not turn based, more sentient skills. That sentiant part allows these pokemon to act different eg dodge, counter etc

oops thought it said lv.50, thought it was kinda weird 4 them 2 b that weak @ lv.50. well those r base stats, not lv.50 stats, sorry 2 any1 i confused😮 if their not attacking turn-based then its an even greater stomp in nido's favor. he's faster than ty & only needs a few hits 2 win...

Flattening a mountain > Flattening a building. (Their respective levels of destruction from the pokedex) While Nidoking could potentially scratch Tyranitar with it's horn, Tyranitar could cause Nidoking to explode with it's fist. 😐 Don't see how this is fair.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Flattening a mountain > Flattening a building. (Their respective levels of destruction from the pokedex) While Nidoking could potentially scratch Tyranitar with it's horn, Tyranitar could cause Nidoking to explode with it's fist. 😐 Don't see how this is fair.

...How seriously are these pokedex statements to be believed? Because that's insane for Tyrannitar.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
...How seriously are these pokedex statements to be believed? Because that's insane for Tyrannitar.
Very seriously, it's the encyclopedia on pokemon. When Tyranitar gets angry, maps need to be redrawn. 😑

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Didn't Ash's Charizard kill Ritchie's Charizard in the manga or something?

Almost did. Plus, that manga is one of the most non canon ones. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Very seriously, it's [b]the encyclopedia on pokemon. When Tyranitar gets angry, maps need to be redrawn. 😑 [/B]

tell the truth, can u really even imagine a mountain being flattened? no i didnt think so...now u can visualize nidoking demolishing a building, thats possible, but no mountain destroying is gonna happen...dont get me wrong, tyranitar could destroy a forest with his Hyper Beam, but he's not as strong as the pokedex makes him out 2 b, they just exaggerate its power 2 make it seem like its a big deal 2 hav a tyranitar

Originally posted by yung_link
tell the truth, can u really even imagine a mountain being flattened? no i didnt think so...now u can visualize nidoking demolishing a building, thats possible, but no mountain destroying is gonna happen...dont get me wrong, tyranitar could destroy a forest with his Hyper Beam, but he's not as strong as the pokedex makes him out 2 b, they just exaggerate its power 2 make it seem like its a big deal 2 hav a tyranitar
The truth: The pokedex is canon. 😐 Therefore, Tyranitar can indeed flatten mountains, that's what it does. How strong the pokedex makes him out ot be is how strong he is. It's an encyclopedia.

What's all this ridiculous math and stat crap? Tyranitar destroys Nidoking even if we're not accepting Pokedex info.

just cuz its an encyclopedia doesnt mean it cant exaggerate, has it ever been proved that tyranitar can topple a mountain? no, its not been seen in the manga or the anime, its just been speculated by the professors who study them due 2 their immense strength. i mean could regigigas really tie ropes 2 the continent & move them? well y can he b defeated by regular pokemon, same with ty, y is it if he can flatten mountains he cant stand up 2 a single Brick Break from nido?

The pokedex is Professor Oaks opinion. Opinion does not equal fact.