Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so a bad@$$ fighter like shang cant take on an aged boxer and a veteran marine in h2h?
Neither of them are slouches in hand to hand. And a one really skilled pereson is gonna ahve trouble with two skilled people. I think aslong as they dont just wait till he beat one of them up to coem in that they will win.
Originally posted by Lord_Talronlol.....no.
no its not, shang-chi is more skilled than both of them put together.
Grant has been stated several times to be the best fighter on the Justice society's earth(usually by JSA members).
The Punisher may not be considered a top teir MA, but he has proven through feats that he can take on very skilled grade A MA's and even formiddable metas h2h.
No way shang's more skilled than them collectively or taking this even once against them both.
Originally posted by vansonbee"one way skill" ? as in, just boxing?
6/10 Shang ChiFrank going down first with strict H2H rule on.
Wildcat is experienced street fighting brute, but his one way skill ain't taking Shang Chi down.
Ted's a master of several other MA's......besides being "the finest boxer who ever lived"
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Punisher no slouch either. this team is more than capable of taking shang.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Team. Punisher and Wildcat might not be as skilled as Shang Chi separately, but combined and working together it's enough for them to win.
Shang Chi and Wildcat are both "masters" of individual forms of martial combat. Shang in Kung Fu/Wushu and Wildcat in boxing. Though both are also cross trained in other arts. Frank may not have as focused training in a particular art, but over and over again he has proven himself a beast in H2H combat.
I figure Frank or Ted alone would be a fair match for Shang. Together they demolish him.
Originally posted by Nightstick
Shang Chi and Wildcat are both "masters" of individual forms of martial combat. Shang in Kung Fu/Wushu and Wildcat in boxing. Though both are also cross trained in other arts. Frank may not have as focused training in a particular art, but over and over again he has proven himself a beast in H2H combat.I figure Frank or Ted alone would be a fair match for Shang. Together they demolish him.
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Ahhhh.... wrong.
Shang-Chi under went (more or less), the same training has his father. Now, to my recollection its never been expressly stated that Shang-Chi is a master of every martial art but it has been stated that his father is, so its pretty easy to infer that Shang-Chi has a vast amount of training out side of the Kung-fu qualifier. Not to mention he once solo'd half a dozen monks at once who where all stated as being masters of every known fighting style.
As someone who has read every single appearance of Shang-Chi I will say this, not only would Shang-Chi beat the two of these guys at once in h2h but he would utterly destroy them. Shang-Chi for tha high majority.
joking right?
wildcat alone would be a big problem, but then you add one if not the most dirtiest fighters in the game to wildcat's team.... 6/10 would be borderline miraculous.
beating N amount of X's is a trait all these guys have, frank twice beat down several groups of magical science monk type dudes while trying to flee a building
I don't want to get into a debate about which fodder is more deadly, but I'm inclinded to believe that a group of MA's who know every MA are more of a handful then the Sholin Scientist Squad.
Shang-chi has koed people with chi screams, walked on ceilings, danced between bullets and been punched into orbit without being ko-ed. He is Karate-Kid lite. Neither of these two are on his level, and to suggest they are is absurd and means you need to take a trip to your LCS and hit up the back issues.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...Ahhhh.... wrong.
Shang-Chi under went (more or less), the same training has his father. Now, to my recollection its never been expressly stated that Shang-Chi is a master of every martial art but it has been stated that his father is, so its pretty easy to infer that Shang-Chi has a vast amount of training out side of the Kung-fu qualifier. Not to mention he once solo'd half a dozen monks at once who where all stated as being masters of every known fighting style.
What are you on about. I said he had training outside of Kung Fu/Wushu, but I'd say that its fairly obvious from his moniker "The Master of Kung Fu"(Kung Fu in this instance used to refer to the martial arts style(s) of Wushu) that said martial art is his primary focus or would you disagree? Lets expand on the idea of cross training more though. Grant is versed in several forms outside of boxing as well. Including kickboxing, capoeira, and Hapkeido. As for the Punisher besides military h2h training he is also versed in half a dozen martial arts.
