Gladiator vs Captain Marvel

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Assuming this is Billy Batson...

I think it could really go either way, as Glads can match (or even exceed) him physically and is the more skilled fighter. In Marvel's defense, he has an extraordinary and often underestimated healing factor on top of his durability/stamina. He can also lace his physical strikes with magical energy for extra ooomf.

Personally, I think Glads should take the slight majority, but the Big Red Cheese makes him work for it every single time.

I dunno, Glads has actual on panel feats of busting planets... Plus, Tyrant had to put some effort behind KOing him..

Billy's powerful, but not "Pre Crisis Superman lite" powerful..

CM

Originally posted by cdtm
I dunno, Glads has actual on panel feats of busting planets... Plus, Tyrant had to put some effort behind KOing him..

Billy's powerful, but not "Pre Crisis Superman lite" powerful..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hes KC superman powerful with out holding back

But even KC Supes wasn't "Pre Crisis Superman" level. He's supposed to be the peak of post crisis Supes, and even than there's no real feats to prove it.

Plus, while Marvel handled this "more powerful" version of Superman, Supes didn't look like he was trying too hard to fight him but more reason with him.. We know from Eclipso's possessions of him that standard Superman could st least hold his own with Marvel, if he's really trying..

Originally posted by cdtm
But even KC Supes wasn't "Pre Crisis Superman" level. He's supposed to be the peak of post crisis Supes, and even than there's no real feats to prove it.

KC was shown to be > mainstream Superman during that whole Kingdom under Gog arc for the JSA. Being able to tank Hercules' punch when it had busted open normal Supes, hearing things that normal Supes couldn't, etc.

Captain Marvel.

chalk a hard won victory up to the power of shazam

Originally posted by cdtm
Billy's powerful, but not "Pre Crisis Superman lite" powerful..

Lulz @ "Pre Crisis Superman lite."

Gladiator is nowhere near PC Superman level.

Gladiator for a majority.Prob 7/10.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Gladiator for a majority.Prob 7/10.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
KC was shown to be > mainstream Superman during that whole Kingdom under Gog arc for the JSA. Being able to tank Hercules' punch when it had busted open normal Supes, hearing things that normal Supes couldn't, etc.

Technically, that also wasn't Kingdom Come Superman. It was a close approximation, but he was a lot older looking...

And to be fair, Earth 22 Superman also had more problems with Gogs herald than mainstream Supes did.

Anyways, regardless the fact remains Gladiator has actual planet smashing feats to his credit..

Personally, I think Gladiator at his best is in Mr. Majestics weight class (In terms of strength and speed. Durability is arguable), and I wouldn't give Superman, Marvel, or even Black Adam odds against Majestic..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
captain marvel wins hands down, he has been shown at times to be stronger than mainstream superman and mainstream superman is stronger than gladiator. along with the fact that he can magically amp his punches and call down lightning

Stronger than mainstream Supes? Examples/feats?

I know Caps knocked Supes out once or twice, but Supes wasn't really prepared for it. Likewise, I can't really count the times Superman was Eclipsed and managed to beat down Cap as proof that Supes is superior, because Eclipso was going all out and Cap doubtlessly wasn't... (Also, Supes was never knocked out by Martian Manhunter like Cap was in Justice League. 😛 )

Writers are usually pretty good about giving either Cap or Superman an "out" instead of giving one clear cut superiority over the other...

Originally posted by cdtm
Technically, that also wasn't Kingdom Come Superman. It was a close approximation, but he was a lot older looking...

And to be fair, Earth 22 Superman also had more problems with Gogs herald than mainstream Supes did.

Anyways, regardless the fact remains Gladiator has actual planet smashing feats to his credit..

Personally, I think Gladiator at his best is in Mr. Majestics weight class (In terms of strength and speed. Durability is arguable), and I wouldn't give Superman, Marvel, or even Black Adam odds against Majestic..

dunno

Originally posted by cdtm
Technically, that also wasn't Kingdom Come Superman. It was a close approximation, but he was a lot older looking...

And to be fair, Earth 22 Superman also had more problems with Gogs herald than mainstream Supes did.

Anyways, regardless the fact remains Gladiator has actual planet smashing feats to his credit..

Personally, I think Gladiator at his best is in Mr. Majestics weight class (In terms of strength and speed. Durability is arguable), and I wouldn't give Superman, Marvel, or even Black Adam odds against Majestic..

Good post even though I think Gladiator>Majestic.

Originally posted by cdtm
I dunno, Glads has actual on panel feats of busting planets... Plus, Tyrant had to put some effort behind KOing him..

Billy's powerful, but not "Pre Crisis Superman lite" powerful..

Good post.

Originally posted by carver9
Good post even though I think Gladiator>Majestic.

Well, in terms of strength and speed, Majestic has planet pushing to rearrange his entire solar system, along with being able to detect and react to teleportation. before the teleporter arrives. Plus what he did to Eradicator's synthetic DNA by rewiring his nerves impulses suggest ridiculous reaction speeds. Where I think it favors Gladiator is overall durability, because he's gone through giant red suns and taken Tyrant attacks, while Majestic needed to transmute his body to go into his sun.. (Although to be fair, Gladiator was also experiencing pain on his trip through the red giant, while Majestic planned to spend extended time in his solar systems sun..)

Gladiator.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Assuming this is Billy Batson...

I think it could really go either way, as Glads can match (or even exceed) him physically and is the more skilled fighter. In Marvel's defense, he has an extraordinary and often underestimated healing factor on top of his durability/stamina. He can also lace his physical strikes with magical energy for extra ooomf.

Personally, I think Glads should take the slight majority, but the Big Red Cheese makes him work for it every single time.

EDIT: apparently so ><