[i]Did you die from it? No. Now, you can tank the force of your own punch.
And so does Akuma, who didn't punch the island as hard as he could and did so at a weaker point in his life. [/B]
doesn't mean he isn't hurt by his own attack and oh i forgot how well does akuma do against sharp blades? ya know he could be like wonderwoman who could tank the blows from supes but still be hurt by blades
Because those blasts were more then the victims could handle, thus more than what they could dish out.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
doesn't mean he isn't hurt by his own attack and oh i forgot how well does akuma do against sharp blades? ya know he could be like wonderwoman who could tank the blows from supes but still be hurt by blades
If he can split 1,400 ft thick rock, while holding back, you better have the sword of God to cut Akuma. Tankin ballistic forces that vast make cutin nigh-useless. You would still have to back up your swing with more force than Dante has ever shown.
Perfect example, if a vest can tank a bullet from a gun, a man with a sword aint cuttin the vest.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Because those blasts were more then the victims could handle, thus more than what they could dish out.
Well he wont be hurt at all by that one, since it was 20 years before his current version and he was holdin back, immensely at that time.If he can split 1,400 ft thick rock, while holding back, you better have the sword of God to cut Akuma. Tankin ballistic forces that vast make cutin nigh-useless. You would still have to back up your swing with more force than Dante has ever shown.
Perfect example, if a vest can tank a bullet from a gun, a man with a sword aint cuttin the vest.
meaning they can't take what they dish out
he wasn't holding back when he punched that island that was an all out due to him looking like a possessed crackhead pror to punching the ground
and yet rose was still able to punch through his chest and ryu being able to make him explode with a shoryuken.. so dante wouldn't be able to pull akuma apart with his barehands?
Ah, the never ending carousell still spins I see...
Originally posted by chuck inglish
meaning they can't take what they dish out
which is not the same thing.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
he wasn't holding back when he punched that island that was an all out due to him looking like a possessed crackhead pror to punching the ground
Proof he was going all out to make that attack please. And lets be clear, this subject has been thrashed out to death in previous topics, and nobody could come even remotely close to proving this case.
He always looks like that...
Originally posted by chuck inglish
and yet rose was still able to punch through his chest and ryu being able to make him explode with a shoryuken.. so dante wouldn't be able to pull akuma apart with his barehands?
Neother of which ever actually happened outside of the comics.
People like Ryu and Rose being able to bring down a nuke tanker like Bison is more of a showing of strengh / power for them rather than a display of weakness on Bison's part.
The same goes (as an example) for Trunks being able to cut Freeza - a guy capable of withstanding planetary explosion - like butter. In no way does it mean someone like Dante or lets say Ichigo from Bleach or Zoro from One Piece could do the same to Freeza, not a chance (except for Yamato due to its dimension cutting hax, maybe).
Like I said the only DMC games I have played are 1 and 4, and I've also watched the DMC anime. The novels are a unknown for me and I wouldn't be able to tell what Dante's feats are in DMC 2 and 3 other than what I've heard from others. However if the info I have got from sources such as the OBD wiki regarding Dante's overall stats are correct, unless something really extraordinary is missing, the simple idea of a unarmed Dante posing a threat to Akuma sounds ludicrous for me.
And since the main subject in here has turned out to be the durability of the Street Fighter cast I think its time to bring in some more showings to the table so hopefully the downplaying in this thread may come to an end.
Akuma in his 3rd Strike ending stays at the botton of the ocean with several tons of pressure upon him unaffected. Should as well note that he tore up the boat upon collision with his body (while performing a hurricane kick) which is also a display of durability.
Bison in his weakest incarnation withstood a Kikosho from Chun-Li powerful enough to decimate a city block point-blank range. And apparently at Naruto Forums Chun's Kikosho seems to have been calculated as high as multi-city block level (seen it in a M. Bison vs. Holy Shonen Trinity thread).
The scene in question can be seen at 0:51 min in the video bellow.
It should be noted also that Chun is a mid tier in the SF universe, most likely bellow the likes of Ryu and Sagat, and probably nowhere near resembling a threat to the top dogs of the SF world.
The next case may not be of much relevance for the thread but still a nice durability showing for a mid-tier in Street Fighter so I'll post it either way. At 26:20 min in the next video Guile tanked an attack from Juri that destroyed a jet fighter as a side-effect.
The next video shows Akuma and Gouken fighting comfortably inside of a volcano as depicted in the opening of SF IV, already mentioned in the thread. Whether this fight is the one they had prior to the events of the Alpha series or the one at the end of SF IV I'm not sure.
And now with Oni being confirmed as canon to Street Fighter's storyline there's no reason to disconsider the next showing, i.e Akuma in his Oni form causing a volcano to erupt and then casually tanking the eruption.
All in all Dante is likely to clear the gauntlet as long as he gets his hax stuff such as Yamato, but if for some reason those are banned unless Dante has demonstrated firepower beyond city block busting (as is the case for Chun-Li's Kikosho) or at least the ability to hurt beings evidenced to have the durability to tank that kind of force without the use of hax I'm afraid he wouldn't be able to pose much of a threat to the big wigs of the SF world, and even less so to that Doomsday-ish version of Akuma seeing how it laughed off a ****ing volcano exploding on his face.
lol still not telling me how they are impentrable to sharp objects.
Frieza wasn't invernable to sharp here's my example if frieza was invunerable the sword would that trunks had would have broken when it made contact with it
so basically a 100 tonner dante + sharp object= chopped up Sf cast blunt force doesn't equal piercing force and we've seen dante cut through thick blocks of demon metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xQonQLixJE metal > flesh anyday
the all mighty planet buster scared of a sharp rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRWIHQPggo (7:30) no offense to dbz love it my favoite manga besides golgo 13 im just trying to show a differnace betwwen blunt force and sharp force
Originally posted by No End N Site
Perfect example, if a vest can tank a bullet from a gun, a man with a sword aint cuttin the vest.
Indeed, at some point raw force endurance translates over to cutting endurance. At this point, it's like trying to slash through a tank with a razor.
LOL Good luck.
We also have to remember, the islands, the ships, the forest, the mounatins and everything else Gouki has destroyed gave way to Gouki. Gouki was unaffected, meaning he's more durable than the objects he's destroyed with his raw power.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
lol still not telling me how they are impentrable to sharp objects.
Frieza wasn't invernable to sharp here's my example if frieza was invunerable the sword would that trunks had would have broken when it made contact with itso basically a 100 tonner dante + sharp object= chopped up Sf cast blunt force doesn't equal piercing force and we've seen dante cut through thick blocks of demon metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xQonQLixJE metal > flesh anyday
Trunks probably infused the sword with his ki in order to amp its durability and sharpness. Either that or the sword was made of some special planet+ durable material (as is the case for example with Wolverine's claws). Both theories could be true, actually.
This ''blunt =/= piercing'' line of reasoning can only be taken so far, and high-top tiers in SF are evidenced to have durability on a level that completely outshines Dante's destuctive showings with his weapons at least as far as I know. And if my info regarding Dante's overall stats is correct without any major detail missing he wouldn't be able to win this IF his hax stuff is taken off from him, just like No End N Site stated in his first post to this thread after you bumped it.
Take a look at the first video in my last post to see how Akuma crashes into a boat making his way through it unscatched whilst the giant object mostly made of metal (and a hella bigger than that thing sliced by Dante) was split into pieces. See also the scene I described in the Juri OVA, in which Guile withstood a attack from Juri that destroyed a jet fighter which is mostly comprised of metal as collateral damage.
Flesh and skin of superhuman characters can be and in many cases they are >>> metallic objects durability-wise.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
"Doomsday-ish version of Akuma seeing how it laughed off a ****ing volcano exploding on his face."meh dante was able to defeat mundus whom was submerged in a ****ing volcano so your point is?
Still, a mere lava bath like the one Mundus took doesn't compare to taking a mega-eruption powerful enough to destroy part of a volcano's bowl as the one in Oni's ending.
Originally posted by chuck inglish*sigh* Just because Goku was afraid of being pressed against that stalactite does not mean he would be utterlly impaled by it, but sure if it's Vegeta pushing him against it he could get injured but not much or else it would be mad PIS and thus dismissible. Besides, you can't bring up inconsistencies and low-showings within one series and try to apply it to others, and since the scene you linked to is most likely filler it's probable that you couldn't even use it against Dragon Ball in debates.
the all mighty planet buster scared of a sharp rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRWIHQPggo (7:30) no offense to dbz love it my favoite manga besides golgo 13 im just trying to show a differnace betwwen blunt force and sharp force
Originally posted by chuck inglish
the all mighty planet buster scared of a sharp rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRWIHQPggo (7:30) no offense to dbz love it my favoite manga besides golgo 13 im just trying to show a differnace betwwen blunt force and sharp force
There is no difference.
Pressure is Pressure. Every force produces pressure.
fictional writers are often unaware of the implications.
If Goku can tank a country level blast, he has nothing to fear from a bullet that won't even go through a block of granite.
Originally posted by chuck inglishThe sword was backed up by someone with greater physical strength than Freeza.
lol still not telling me how they are impentrable to sharp objects.
Frieza wasn't invernable to sharp here's my example if frieza was invunerable the sword would that trunks had would have broken when it made contact with itso basically a 100 tonner dante + sharp object= chopped up Sf cast blunt force doesn't equal piercing force and we've seen dante cut through thick blocks of demon metal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xQonQLixJE metal > flesh anyday
Try harder.
the all mighty planet buster scared of a sharp rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFRWIHQPggo (7:30) no offense to dbz love it my favoite manga besides golgo 13 im just trying to show a differnace betwwen blunt force and sharp force
Vegeta is strong enough to manage that, sure.
Oh look at what I found:
http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+28&page=135
Apparently Goku can block Trunks' sword with his finger.
If you're going to for some asinine reason use another series as evidence of a shortcoming of another, at least have knowledge of the series you are using, otherwise someone who does have knowledge of the series will just prove you wrong.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
meaning they can't take what they dish outhe wasn't holding back when he punched that island that was an all out due to him looking like a possessed crackhead pror to punching the ground
and yet rose was still able to punch through his chest and ryu being able to make him explode with a shoryuken.. so dante wouldn't be able to pull akuma apart with his barehands?
No
Yes, he was holdin' back.
That meams Ryu and Rose hit very hard. Not that Bison was weak. He has an established durability feat.
Originally posted by chuck inglishWe know.
after doing some research Akuma just doen't caually punch ayers rock and that island its actually a powerful technique called kongou kokuretsu zan where he charges his hand with ki and punches the ground causing mass destruction
Nothing you just said is news here.
But Kongou Kokuretsu Zan was created years after Akuma punched the island.
Originally posted by NemeBro
We know.Nothing you just said is news here.
But Kongou Kokuretsu Zan was created years after Akuma punched the island.
No. Where's your source? the way im looking at it is akuma did'nt have it mastered back during street fighter alpha 2 and as for proof he was using it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TtwRoLbOAo when you see him punch the ground you can see him emitting purple chi with his fist
This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T51U8uQFrQo&feature=player_embedded is non canon cause akuma kills bison not an exploison so none of that crap autally happens
Let's get our facts staright and together first, the trailer is CLEARLY stated to take place AFTER SFII. Vega is KILLED by Gouki DURING SFII, it actually happens IN THE GAME.
Vega wasn't even killed in that fight and he clearly has a new body after his death at the hands of Gouki, in that trailer. That scene obviously takes place AFTER SFII and shortly before IV. No retcon necessary. Not to mention the game makes reference to both Gouki killing Vega and the Aftermath trailer events. But of course, you have to play the game to know, but that isn't a common practice at KMC.