Onslaught vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Ambient
And still won..

I don't see OS being able to deliver blows to that magnitude and Jugs have certain vulnerabilities to psychic attack soon as that helmet no longer protects him, surfer on the other hand posses abilities to defend from such attack.. That + his overall energy and matter manipulative powers is why he can contend and take a majority against earlier version of OS..

Is it that you don't want to believe that OS can't deliver blows to that degree because he was defeated physically by a raging Hulk? You do realize that the Hulk's strength can not be accurately measured, because he does not have a static level right?

Really read it again, you'll find there was no telling Onslaught physically took the gem by force fact this happened in astral world and we all know Jugs can't bring himself there..

If moondragoon w/ mind gem couldn't do it lesser chance OS could.. Other than that Oslaught no way of winning - he'll just get disperse or turned into harmless energy.. Lol

Originally posted by Stoic
Is it that you don't want to believe that OS can't deliver blows to that degree because he was defeated physically by a raging Hulk? You do realize that the Hulk's strength can not be accurately measured, because he does not have a static level right?

Hulk cracking Onslaught armor is irrelevant to the point I'm making.. All I'm saying is that the lesser version of Onslaught should be within the realm for surfer to beat.. Is all..

Originally posted by Ambient
A fail to see ur point..

Hulk cracking Onslaught armor is irrelevant to the point I'm making.. All I'm saying is that the lesser version of Onslaught should be within the realm for surfer to beat.. Is all..

Ok, but to rely on Onslaught fighting the Surfer in the phyical realm would be like saying that he's going to fight like Doobee the doorknob right? If he used all of his abilities, this really is a no contest, as Norrin would lose a battle with Onslaught in Astral space, and I mean every single time.

Originally posted by Ambient
They probably include Nate and Franklin supposed realized full potential with Onslaught, more of a speculation really ✅ ..

Like i've mentioned before Surfer in terms of fighting metaphysically; psi/astral is not defenseless.. The fact that he faced beings that perhaps rivaled OS is a enough that he can contend against him + his supposedly a lot more powerful in that plane and even if he does stalemate he could always escape from this plane and take the fight were its more of an advantage..

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thats what i thought, Franklin at FULL potential/adulthood is supposed to have power equaling a Celestial...it seems otherfanboy try to hype Onslaught to that lvl for some reason

The OP say Onslaught vs Silver Surfer, I did not realize that we were allowed to neuter him, and I have not followed every post since this thread began, so I was unaware that the thread starter placed Onslaught in an incomplete form. Even still I vote for a no contest, because I have never seen the Surfer to possess psychic abilities that could even begin to rival Xavier's.

Not really consider we are considering OS potential thought his never been shown on panel to posses.. If we really push it Surfer can also contend with the final version of Onslaught, being around that long his got an abundant of high feats..

Yeah Surfer does posses global psi, that + his other abilities makes him >>> Xavier..

Originally posted by Ambient
Not really consider we are considering OS potential thought his never been shown on panel to posses.. If we really push it Surfer can also contend with the final version of Onslaught, being around that long his got an abundant of high feats..

Yeah Surfer does posses global psi, that + his other abilities makes him >>> Xavier..

Whoa now I think that you are pushing it. Tell me of these psi feats that he has accomplished, and not resistance feats, but actual manipulation feats.

Onslaught was able to tame the Phoenix, which is a being that is far above the Silver Surfer. Onslaught is made up of psionic energy correct? Where and when did you ever see the Silver Surfer control what could be calculated as metaphysical energy?

His got tonce, don't even know were to start.. Checked the respect thread but what comes to mind right now is tp from across the universe, global tp 2x, fought a psionic entity within it's mind that's capable of absorbing a solar system, the Others etc, etc.. I'm on IPhone lol and not very good at texting..lol

Phoenix has been manipulated many x, defeat it then that would be very impressive.

Fighting Metaphysical beings: He took away Unilords power - soul/psi energy, defeat a being of pure psi energy using PC energy conversion, etc etc..

Surfer gets battered early in the fight, his noble speeches ignored by Onslaught, This continues on until the 11th round, when suddenly Surfer gets through dicking around and beats seven shades of psionic shit out of Onslaught.

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