Originally posted by the ninjak
No.WWH when pushed to such limits becomes WBH then the fight is over and Thanos wins.
1) current Hulk moves in and out of those levels with regularity (Rulk getting owned casually), without giving way to another persona.
2) nothing whatsoever to prove that Thanos has what it takes to push current Hulk to require higher levels of power.
Originally posted by janus77
rubbish.1) current Hulk moves in and out of those levels with regularity (Rulk getting owned casually), without giving way to another persona.
2) nothing whatsoever to prove that Thanos has what it takes to push current Hulk to require higher levels of power.
OP says WWH. Not current Hulk.
Originally posted by janus77You overexaggerate the Hulk to hilarity. Thanos would maul him and Hulk wouldn't want any. Thanos has slapped him and overpowered him with ease before and a more powerful Thanos would simply put fear into his heart.
team wins. if Mistress Death has still not welcomed him back, then it's even worse for Thanos as Hulk is never going to tire or grow weaker, so Thanos is constantly going to be atomised and resurrected only to repeat the cycle again ..Sentry/Void would present a huge challenge to Thanos, imo, he would also make sure that Hulk cannot be bfr'd and that Hulk retains his motivation.
Originally posted by janus77
team wins. if Mistress Death has still not welcomed him back, then it's even worse for Thanos as Hulk is never going to tire or grow weaker, so Thanos is constantly going to be atomised and resurrected only to repeat the cycle again ..Sentry/Void would present a huge challenge to Thanos, imo, he would also make sure that Hulk cannot be bfr'd and that Hulk retains his motivation.
How do you figure WWH burnt out fighting the Sentry.. not even Void Sentry
^ Most likely because as he was burning out Sentry's power, he chose (as he convinced Sentry to do), to not let his rage/power consume him and define him as a monster. Combine that with Sentry's calming effect on him and it makes sense.
Originally posted by janus77No BFR in this match.
Sentry/Void would present a huge challenge to Thanos, imo, he would also make sure that Hulk cannot be bfr'd and that Hulk retains his motivation.
Originally posted by the ninjakThey're the same.
OP says WWH. Not current Hulk.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Most likely because as he was burning out Sentry's power, he chose (as he convinced Sentry to do), to not let his rage/power consume him and define him as a monster. Combine that with Sentry's calming effect on him and it makes sense. No BFR in this match. They're the same.
We saw no evidence of that.. that is all speculation big odg. What we do know.. hulks have shown to burn out... WWH.. Red Hulk... all did so after long prolonged battles with people(s)
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Most likely because as he was burning out Sentry's power, he chose (as he convinced Sentry to do), to not let his rage/power consume him and define him as a monster. Combine that with Sentry's calming effect on him and it makes sense.
I said this a long time ago... people tend to forget about that unique ability that sentry have... and to my knowledge, he used it before against the hulk.
I agree with everything that was said in this post and there really isn't a way of denying this.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
We saw no evidence of that.. that is all speculation big odg. What we do know.. hulks have shown to burn out... WWH.. Red Hulk... all did so after long prolonged battles with people(s)
Why is it speculation when sentry was laying everything he had on the table against wwh?
Originally posted by carver9Reed Richards replicated Sentrys ability to use against the Hulk and it failed, its safe to say Sentry calming influence didnt work on WWH.
I said this a long time ago... people tend to forget about that unique ability that sentry have... and to my knowledge, he used it before against the hulk.I agree with everything that was said in this post and there really isn't a way of denying this.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0No, iirc Hulk was too angry and focused for it to work.
^ And Reed's device not working wasn't a product of the machine itself failing because either [b](a) the machine didn't perfectly reproduce the aura, or (b) the machine not producing enough of that same aura? [/B]
Originally posted by Black bolt zWhats hard to understand about saying when did the version of Molecule Man Sentry beat used Galaxy lvl powers, becuase that what we were talking about to start with troll.
What?
Are you claiming thanos's matter manip>Owen's?When did i ever suggest that, but the MM Sentry beat didnt do any uber matter manip.
Originally posted by Nihilist
No, iirc Hulk was too angry and focused for it to work.
Originally posted by rotiartAt some point, I will post scans. No access to em now. I can't recall right now myself.
I thought reed created a projection and since he didn't know how to create the calming aura he hoped the mere presence of the sentry would calm hulk... But it didn't because it wasn't an actual aura?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You'll have to be specific. I don't know which part you're assessing to be speculation.And I don't recall anybody burning Banner out by confronting his power directly since World War Hulk, beyond power draining schticks.
Well the part where you said "most likely" which you had to say because there was zero narration or on panel evidence saying this is why Hulk "burnt out"
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiExactly and add that to the fact I seem to recall the writer actually stating something like they just burned each other out for the time being.
We saw no evidence of that.. that is all speculation big odg. What we do know.. hulks have shown to burn out... WWH.. Red Hulk... all did so after long prolonged battles with people(s)
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou are looking for direct affirmation/report that's exactly what happened. For whatever reason, perhaps because this is supposed to be an argument, you are unconcerned with what evidence suggests so. Taken to one extreme, you're asking Bucky to say, "Cap you beat Red Skull physically" and without that pandering statement, Cap knocking Red Skull out isn't evidence itself of that conclusion.
Well the part where you said "most likely" which you had to say because there was zero narration or on panel evidence saying this is why Hulk "burnt out"
But instead of taking to extremes, let's look at the entire scene:
Fact: Hulk literally panders to Bob and the audience that you're not supposed to let the power take you over and allow that to define you, you have to choose.
Fact: Hulk wasn't completely burnt out from accessing his gamma energies because right after he "burnt out," he got angry again, and he instantaneously harnessed enough energy to reach a power level that surpassed what he was just two pages before.
So what's the most likely explanation that bridges the gap between Hulk reverting to Banner in one instance and then immediately going Worldbreaker-levels not a minute later?
Choice.
It literally was the moral of the story. Which is one of those repetitively tired themes that even applies to Reynolds himself who powered up to Void-levels or down to death out of choice.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fact: Hulk wasn't completely burnt out from accessing his gamma energies because right after he "burnt out," he got angry again, and he instantaneously harnessed enough energy to reach a power level that surpassed what he was just two pages before.
Originally posted by rotiartthis is lost on so many
I thought reed created a projection and since he didn't know how to create the calming aura he hoped the mere presence of the sentry would calm hulk... But it didn't because it wasn't an actual aura?