Szayel Aporro Granz vs. The Narutoverse

Originally posted by King Kandy
The text itself made it incredibly obvious he could use Gabriel more than once... that was part of the need for the treachery on Mayuri's part, Mayuri himself also seemed to think that Gabriel would work again. Womb, as a term, is often used metaphorically.

Fair enough. I'll concede the point.

He isn't affecting Susano'o though, that much is obvious. He'd have to catch Itachi in those tentacles to infect him. Which if he does, automatically gives him the win IMO.

How would Szayel fare against genjutsu? With prep, he can probably come up with a way to counter genjutsu, but Tsukiyomi?
The effects of the poison in Nemu, and Itachi's Tsukiyomi, function somewhat similarly as well. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is said to control time, and he could torture Szayel for days.

Originally posted by Q99

Hm... I wonder about the various soul-eating attacks. Those might be good too.

Ya know, I wonder if Orochimaru could take Szayel into his own dimension and being the transfer jutsu. Orochimaru would go mad with delight if that worked.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Fair enough. I'll concede the point.

He isn't affecting Susano'o though, that much is obvious. He'd have to catch Itachi in those tentacles to infect him. Which if he does, automatically gives him the win IMO.

How would Szayel fare against genjutsu? With prep, he can probably come up with a way to counter genjutsu, but Tsukiyomi?
The effects of the poison in Nemu, and Itachi's Tsukiyomi, function somewhat similarly as well. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is said to control time, and he could torture Szayel for days.

Szayel already got tortured for basically centuries, I don't think just three days will drive him over the edge after that, even if it is executed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ya know, I wonder if Orochimaru could take Szayel into his own dimension and being the transfer jutsu. Orochimaru would go mad with delight if that worked.

Originally posted by King Kandy
True enough.

Szayel already got tortured for basically centuries, I don't think just three days will drive him over the edge after that, even if it is executed.

I got the impression he was *way* over the edge after that, just begging for death.

I doubt it. Szayel himself can consume souls as well, being a hollow. Maybe he can suck Itachi's soul right out of Susanoo like Yammy did to all those people.

But even Tatsuki was strong enough to resist, so I doubt it.

Originally posted by Q99
I got the impression he was *way* over the edge after that, just begging for death.

Originally posted by King Kandy
True enough.

Szayel already got tortured for basically centuries, I don't think just three days will drive him over the edge after that, even if it is executed.

I doubt it. Szayel himself can consume souls as well, being a hollow. Maybe he can suck Itachi's soul right out of Susanoo like Yammy did to all those people.

Was three days the limit for Itachi? Or was it just three days for Kakashi? If he can control time within Tsukiyomi, logically speaking, he could torture Szayel for as long as his chakra level would allow (not for a hundred years though. Doubt he could reach a year).
Besides, sword-stabbing isn't the only thing Itachi is limited to.

I was under the impression that Gonzui was specific to Yammy? Besides, like Q said, Tatsuki was able to resist the soul-suck.
Hollows don't seem to employ soul-sucking against spiritually aware beings like shinigami anyway, not unless they are weakened I think.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Was three days the limit for Itachi? Or was it just three days for Kakashi? If he can control time within Tsukiyomi, logically speaking, he could torture Szayel for as long as his chakra level would allow (not for a hundred years though. Doubt he could reach a year).
Besides, sword-stabbing isn't the only thing Itachi is limited to.

I was under the impression that Gonzui was specific to Yammy? Besides, like Q said, Tatsuki was able to resist the soul-suck.
Hollows don't seem to employ soul-sucking against spiritually aware beings like shinigami anyway, not unless they are weakened I think.

But Naruto characters aren't spiritually aware, like Shinigami. I mean, they might not even be able to see Szayel, which would make things tough.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I know. But that was after a hundred years. My point is that compared to that, three days is nothing.

But it was a hundred years of mostly standing there and a slow stab, and we only saw his mental state way at the end. It's quite different to handle three solid days of intense torture, and we don't know what he was like, say, a week after the stabbing started.

Originally posted by Q99
But it was a hundred years of mostly standing there and a slow stab, and we only saw his mental state way at the end. It's quite different to handle three solid days of intense torture, and we don't know what he was like, say, a week after the stabbing started.

Umm...did anyone already say Deidera's C4 bomb. I'm not really sure Szayel hs the speed to get away from it or the hierro durability to withstand it. Along with that its a suicide attack so Gabriel wouldn't work(I think).

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Umm...did anyone already say Deidera's C4 bomb. I'm not really sure Szayel hs the speed to get away from it or the hierro durability to withstand it. Along with that its a suicide attack so Gabriel wouldn't work(I think).

😕 Suicidal attack...how would that be different from a normal attack?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um, all Itachi did was stab as well. So it's about equal in that department. Whatever Itachi did to him won't be equal to what happened to him already.

It was *one* stab through the hand (and eventually *decades* later through the heart), slow and gradual, vs 3 days of stab-stab-stab, that's pretty different.

Itachi's torture is intense and rapid fire, Mayuri's was incredibly slow and agonizing over a long period, and again we have no idea at what point during it Szayel broke.

The Narutoverse

Originally posted by Q99
It was *one* stab through the hand (and eventually *decades* later through the heart), slow and gradual, vs 3 days of stab-stab-stab, that's pretty different.

Itachi's torture is intense and rapid fire, Mayuri's was incredibly slow and agonizing over a long period, and again we have no idea at what point during it Szayel broke.