Wolverine Vs. Atom Smasher

Started by Battlehammer2 pages

Originally posted by Prep-Man
yes, he can pass through solid objects. But hasn't shown it for a while. He's been able to take on teams as well, so this doesn't look good for Logan.

Pym taking on teams before, big guys actually seem to have an easier time with teams. Because they far more targets to hit.

Also when did taking on teams equate to > Wolverine?

This is the same type of nonsenses used in death-stroke threads. If you can take on a team (which job) but then have fits with the same individual one on one, you beating the team means very little.

Also you do know that Wolverine has taken on teams before right?

Wow I didn't know he can go intangible. Anyone got scans of that? Can he do that offensively... kinda weird a large intangible giant with great strength could be quite deadly.

Originally posted by Warlord
he could go intangible

What does that mean though? I mean has he ever displayed it offensively? How much does he uses it in combat? rarely? I mean was it not just stated that he has not even display the power in a long time? does that mean he even still has it or would uses it in combat?

Also what happens if he did phases and Wolverine jump through him, and now thats a big if, him phasing, but assumed he did I wonder how he deal with Wolverine jumping through his phased body not good I think.

lets not forget how much it hurts kitty to face through logan due to his dense adamantium molecules...
in marvel its bn shown that density has an effect on intangibility

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Pym taking on teams before, big guys actually seem to have an easier time with teams. Because they far more targets to hit.

Also when did taking on teams equate to > Wolverine?

This is the same type of nonsenses used in death-stroke threads. If you can take on a team (which job) but then have fits with the same individual one on one, you beating the team means very little.

Also you do know that Wolverine has taken on teams before right?

Of course I know, I'm a wolvie fan, too, ya know. But Atom's strength would be enough to KO Logan. He's class 90 or so when he's at full strength.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Of course I know, I'm a wolvie fan, too, ya know. But Atom's strength would be enough to KO Logan. He's class 90 or so when he's at full strength.

yea because we all know wolverine has not taken 100 plus shots before.........for a wolverine fan you seem to lack some basic knowledge. 90 class can KO wolverine,but not within a single hit or even closes to it. Also what hinders it more is the fact the larger the fist the less damage to a certain area it causes. Person who is 50 feet tall punches would be less effective then a person who only 9 feat due to the area of the attack. also you assume the less skilled, slower individual is gunna land hits at will because?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yea because we all know wolverine has not taken 100 plus shots before.........for a wolverine fan you seem to lack some basic knowledge. 90 class can KO wolverine,but not within a single hit or even closes to it. Also what hinders it more is the fact the larger the fist the less damage to a certain area it causes. Person who is 50 feet tall punches would be less effective then a person who only 9 feat due to the area of the attack. also you assume the less skilled, slower individual is gunna land hits at will because?

No, I've seen Logan take hits from Hulk, so I know he'd last a few minutes, but Smasher would just pin him to the ground (he's actually fast himself) and can control his own molecules, so he the claws would be a non factor.

wiki sorry guys.. 😮

Already super strong at his normal size — 7 ft 6 in, or 2.3 m — (though recently he has been depicted as being of a more normal height when not using his powers), Atom Smasher's strength and density increase proportionately to whatever size he chooses (it was enumerated in JSA #75 that his muscles and bones actually break and reform as they grow in order to achieve these great heights).

The upper limits of Rothstein's growth spurts are unclear, but heights above 50 feet are believed to tax his molecular structure and could cause permanent cell damage; however, in the DC Encyclopedia, it stated that he could grow up to 60 feet without problems. Whether there is a limit to the heights he can grow to is unknown. His major power showings include knocking out Power Girl with one stomp, and easily decimating most of the JSA during "Black Reign", but he is vulnerable to super-strong punches from the likes of Black Adam, being knocked unconscious with one blow several times. During his time as Nuklon, Albert was able to phase through walls; he has lost this power in recent years, or it has been retconned away. Rothstein is also a skilled pilot and mechanic. In the first few years of JSA, he could be seen piloting the JSA's jet, the Steel Eagle, as well as the Star Rocket Racer in JSA: Our Worlds at War, and earlier being Infinity, Inc.'s primary pilot.
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Originally posted by Prep-Man
No, I've seen Logan take hits from Hulk, so I know he'd last a few minutes,

Hulk, thor, herc Ba'al, namor, tiger shark ect.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
but Smasher would just pin him to the ground (he's actually fast himself)

Yea being fast and being superhuman fast arnt remotely the same, but I will gladly match feats. The speed of wolverine is much faster then he. He also far smaller target, this idea that wolverine will simply be pinned is absurd and simply ignores the characters abiliteis

Originally posted by Prep-Man
and can control his own molecules, so he the claws would be a non factor.

I love to see evidence of him simply ignoring stabs from unbreakable weapons, becuase I gunna call I big bullshit on you. But please prove me wrong.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Hulk, thor, herc Ba'al, namor, tiger shark ect.

Yea being fast and being superhuman fast arnt remotely the same, but I will gladly match feats. The speed of wolverine is much faster then he. He also far smaller target, this idea that wolverine will simply be pinned is absurd and simply ignores the characters abiliteis

I love to see evidence of him simply ignoring stabs from unbreakable weapons, becuase I gunna call I big bullshit on you. But please prove me wrong.

he's fast enough to tackle Power Girl, catch Adam, etc... He's on a team of speedsters for crying out loud.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
he's fast enough to tackle Power Girl, catch Adam, etc... He's on a team of speedsters for crying out loud.

Yea becuase we all know they move that fast all the time 🙄

Honestly are you kidding me superman onces had trouble fallowing deathstroke movements.

Unless they are displayed moving at high speed it pretty much irrelevent. Power girl for one is constantly displayed with out any type of superhuman speed. By your logic friggin batman would be spiderman plus speeds.

Yes, they were moving at high speeds at times. Didn't stop Albert.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yea becuase we all know they move that fast all the time 🙄

Honestly are you kidding me superman onces had trouble fallowing deathstroke movements.

Unless they are displayed moving at high speed it pretty much irrelevent. Power girl for one is constantly displayed with out any type of superhuman speed. By your logic friggin batman would be spiderman plus speeds.

except that Power Girl has used speed on more than one occasion, even in combat.