Originally posted by dmills
We both know where you stand regarding Nova so your opinion is about as useful as a peso in Vegas.
Originally posted by dmills
Whoops. I forgot that I promised wildshadow that I'll be nice from now on. Sorry Nihilist. What I meant to say was that your uninformed and biased opinion is dismissed. Respectfully of course.
And we both know you ride Nova's cock hard.
Dick Rider has never shown he can handle guys like Adam in 1 v 1 battle without bfr.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I could be wrong about this, but I could have sworn I read a comic where they actually attempted to attack Adam's brain and said it was just as invulnerable as the rest of his body.
It occureed during 52. Morrow opened up a football field-sized space in his brain. He survived, but he couldn't fight back.
Originally posted by dmills
I don't agree that Black Adam is the better fighter, but ditto on the physical stats. Nova should be a upper tier class 100+ considering that an average centurian is a 20 tonner and Nova Prime is supposedly thousands of times more powerful then a centurian. However, Nova seems to hang out around the low to mid tier class 100+ along with Wonder Man, She Hulk and Colossus. But unlike them, he can amp his power level.What works in Nova's favor is that gravity manipulators like him, Graviton or Gravity have a huge advantage over most strength based characters because gravity >>> strength. Nova in particular, because of the Nova Force and more importantly, the World Mind, is able to manipulate gravity in much more subtle ways then even Graviton. He is able to bend, weave and shape gravity in ways that high level gravity manipulators can't easily replicate, i.e. converting pure gravity into gravimetric energy or opening a stargate to precisely the location he wants to go. He can even use a person's own mass against them to turn them into a stargate (Sphinx) or bfr them into a hostile enviornment (Mindless ones, Ego). When properly used the Nova Force can even allow a low level centurian to incapacitate a person much more powerful then them because of gravity manipulation (Robbie vs Xenith).
Nova's speed and durability are as good as anybodies. He has also recently undergone a sort of soft retcon of sorts. At first DnA were writing Nova as having all of the Nova Force contained within him. You saw various scenarios with him being weakend and only having 17% of the Nova Force etc. But over time, (and a lot of annoyance from die hard Nova fans) they began to realize the inconsistancy of that approach. The Nova Force is a near infinite energy source used for various purposes, so how can Nova have only 17% etc? So now the way it works is levels of access. The WM allows a certain level of access to Nova Milleniums (which is what Robbie and others were down graded to). More access is allowed to Centurian level Nova's like Philo. The Nova Prime is allowed full unlimited access. This is why we no longer see Nova use terms like "I need full power to both hands", and instead saying "Worldmind, give me what you can spare, tight focus", and then blasting the hell out of whatever. In other words the Nova Prime gets what ever amount of Nova Force he needs to get the job done. It's just a matter of how smart he is with it.
Nova 6/10
Interesting..
Thinking about how Superman was completely helpless against a group of New Gods because of their ability to tap into "Heavy mass galaxies", pinning him with heavy gravity...
Gravity manipulation can be a killer power...
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
It occureed during 52. Morrow opened up a football field-sized space in his brain. He survived, but he couldn't fight back.
It knocked him out.
Which I guess proves his brain is pretty invulnerable.
Massive PIS on being able to pinpoint a moving target that small though, even if he's not using his super speed (I mean, it's not like Morrow is using the power internally like Sue Richards, so it should've been more complicated than pointing and shooting...