Who can survive being in the core of the sun

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What-If's, by their very definition, aren't canon, though.

I don't like it ❌

From what I have been able to determine, 'What If's simply inject characters into scenarios that provide a different outcome...

I mean, it's not as if there was a story like 'What if Aunt May beat the Juggernaut to death with her rock-hard bran muffins'??

I could understand foolishness like that not being qualified to be used in a debate, because it is wholly unbelievable in the context of what these characters are established to be capable of.

But I have not seen any examples of this. All the WI's I have read are stories that would have happened the exact same way if they occured in mainline continuity. The only reason they don't happen in mainline continuity is because they are such downers/too destructive to the highlighted character to keep ongoing series viable.

what would the core of the sun do to a human

Originally posted by carver9
Was it the surface or was it the core of the sun?

I know what feat you are talking about when he was fighting on the surface of the moon but I cant remember him ever going to the core.

I agree, Thor CAN survive the surface of the sun.

He went to the center of the sun.

Originally posted by carver9
Two different Supermen and how about the recent comic Superman/Batman where he was over loaded by sunlight and it almost made him explode from the inside out (but instead, he was turned into a hulk like creature).

No, Superman Prime 1 Mill is normal continuity Superman in the future after he spends years and years in the Sun.

Same Superman has flown through a Red Sun which was depowering him as he he flew through it, and has a number of other feats where he goes through, or into a sun.

Originally posted by Lunacyde
No, Superman Prime 1 Mill is normal continuity Superman in the future after he spends years and years in the Sun.

Same Superman has flown through a Red Sun which was depowering him as he he flew through it, and has a number of other feats where he goes through, or into a sun.

Again, not mainstream Superman.

I never said Superman couldnt fly through a sun. I never said that any of them couldnt fly through one because I believe that all of them could if they were going at high speed (basically just getting a taste of the heat and coming out of it ASAP).

Now just sitting in the core, I think it would mess a lot of them up. I dont know how my post got turned into a "why cant Superman do it" post but hey, you cant blame be Pr and Badabing.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what would the core of the sun do to a human

A human wouldn't get there. They would vaporize before they reached the surface. The surface is far hotter than a Crematorium.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, not mainstream Superman.

I never said Superman couldnt fly through a sun. I never said that any of them couldnt fly through one because I believe that all of them could if they were going at high speed (basically just getting a taste of the heat and coming out of it ASAP).

Now just sitting in the core, I think it would mess a lot of them up. I dont know how my post got turned into a "why cant Superman do it" post but hey, you cant blame be Pr and Badabing.

It is mainstream Superman. It's just a look at him in the future.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He went to the center of the sun.

I didnt know that. Well, I'm basing my judgment off of recent Thor and I cant picture him doing it. I honestly think that was a one time feat for him and it was completely out of the norm for him (going to the core of the sun).

Can he do it again, probably, probably not but I just dont think that he could,

Originally posted by Lunacyde
A human wouldn't get there. They would vaporize before they reached the surface. The surface is far hotter than a Crematorium.

Originally posted by Lunacyde
It is mainstream Superman. It's just a look at him in the future.

So I can also use KC Superman feats for Mainstream Superman since he is a older version of Superman?

mainstreem means current

you mean its in the same continuity

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt know that. Well, I'm basing my judgment off of recent Thor and I cant picture him doing it. I honestly think that was a one time feat for him and it was completely out of the norm for him (going to the core of the sun).

Can he do it again, probably, probably not but I just dont think that he could,

I agree recent Thor has been pretty tame in terms of feats. But all of his feats, even those from the "classic" days are still viable and canon from him. I dislike how people try to make Thor and other characters "Post Crisis" by only going by what they've done recently, and I'm not saying you're doing this. But Thor is going to be going in a more cosmic direction according to Fraction who does a decent Thor in his own right, so I have hopes for the future.

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt know that. Well, I'm basing my judgment off of recent Thor and I cant picture him doing it. I honestly think that was a one time feat for him and it was completely out of the norm for him (going to the core of the sun).

Can he do it again, probably, probably not but I just dont think that he could,

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I agree recent Thor has been pretty tame in terms of feats. But all of his feats, even those from the "classic" days are still viable and canon from him. I dislike how people try to make Thor and other characters "Post Crisis" by only going by what they've done recently, and I'm not saying you're doing this. But Thor is going to be going in a more cosmic direction according to Fraction who does a decent Thor in his own right, so I have hopes for the future.

Yeah, I'm a Thor aholic, love the character and I still think of him as the top herald but I also think depending on the writer comes a different powerset.

Some writers make Thor the true god that he is while others give me the assumption that he cant pull a feat like this off without dying.

Thats why I am saying, "I dont know". You said that he did it in the past so I am stuck on a maybe right now. I think a lot of the heralds has taken a lost in power recently, thats why the respect threads (except Surfer) isnt on the first page any more, they are getting downplayed and we are rarely seeing any decent feats.

I hope a change happen soon because it is messing up a lot of debating here.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
imo it was, he went there to get atum. the writer had to make it happen so for the story

I agree with this, every story has a plot but hey, we wouldnt have respect threads if it wasnt for plots.

Originally posted by carver9
So I can also use KC Superman feats for Mainstream Superman since he is a older version of Superman?

No because that isn't the same Superman. And I'm not using a feat from the DC 1 Million story.....I am simply saying to get there normal mainstream current Superman spent years upon years inside the sun.

Originally posted by carver9
So I can also use KC Superman feats for Mainstream Superman since he is a older version of Superman?

Originally posted by Lunacyde
No because that isn't the same Superman. And I'm not using a feat from the DC 1 Million story.....I am simply saying to get there normal mainstream cureent Superman spent years upon years inside the sun.

Again, they are two different Superman, not even from the same Universe.

You cant use his feats as credit.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No. That was an older Superman from a different Universe.

I know this and that is why I am saying you cant use his feats. It is two different Supermen.

Besides KC Superman was about ten times more badass in addition to being like somewhere around twice as powerful or so.