Originally posted by jinzin
It was in a Web of Spiderman issue immediately following that book, it's not a fight, it's just Wolverine tagging his clothes off before he has a chance to react.
I think that fight is quite arguably a representation of Wolverine holding back and he had plenty of reasons to do so, he knows Spiderman is a hero, he knows Spiderman's a kid, and he already assumed Parker was out of his comfort zone and in over his head. Wolverine was taking it easy on him proven once where Wolverine drops his guard recognizing that Parkers about to unload on him, and then again when he opts to retract his claws.Spiderman getting hit by skilled street levels is the norm not the exception. Like Wolverine getting shot by bullets, it's likely a case caused by his own self inflicted CIS. (not all the time as Dardevil has also proved).
Wolverine's almost as fast as parker way more skilled and has much much better stamina, there's virtually no reason why Parker should be able to successfully avoid him for any lengthy duration.
Yes, but Wolverine only retracted his claws at the very end of the fight, the moment before Spider-man started punhing, Logan was actually gonna throw another attack, its just Spider-man didnt let him to. Logan knew Spider-man isnt gonna back off, he even said that since he has no other choice he'll get through Parker. And several times attempted to stab him. He only retracted his claws once Spider-man stopped punching, backed off and welcomed Logan to come in close. There was no need "to get through" Parker any longer, because Logan knew he already won, that's when he stopped using claws. But before that he was going for it.
I think so too, Jin. Most of the times it CIS, sometimes writers. But the bigger threat is, the more likely it is for Spider-man to successfully dodge because cis no longer become a problem when his instincts kick in. Same works with Logan, whenever his hf isnt working or blocked.
Logan really is almost as fast and gazzilion times more skilled, but the difference in stamina isnt THAT huge. Parker's though isn't like Logan's is still crazy. He can fight for hours non stop. Also when it comes to dodging Spider-man is better, and that edge in speed combined with his spider sense in enough room should make doging Logan not a very hard task for him. If that wasnt the casae he'd be dead a long time ago.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWMan, I know all those feats.🙁 Im not some raging Deadpool fanboy who refuses to accept that Wolverine is strong, fast etc. If anything ive been a Logan fan much longer han Wade's. Most of the times they fought I actually rooted for Logan. But yes I believe Wade's punches are almost as formidable. Its not like Logan punches someone's head off everytime he throws an all out punch. Deadpol's kicked off a head with a kick, broke a neck with a punch, koed a class 70 character, hurt other class 100, kicked people through walls etc. The difference isn't that big.
About kicks...
Logan sent Roughouse to a pool with one kick.
Staggered/arguably dazed Abomination.
Bruised Mister Fantastic.
As I said before, knocked down Savage Hulk.
Kicked a guy's head off... that punk was wearing an exosuit.
Punches?
Wolverine punched ROGUE through a wall.
KO'd Roughouse more than once.
KO'd Caliban.
Made a short work of Domina.
One-shotted Crossbones.
I won't even mention what happened to poor Vanguard...
You're telling me DP's punches are almost as formidable? How so?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWLogan going all out should be cutting through a few dozen Batmans imo. And I always thought its his CIS that stop him from kicking Elektra's ass every time they meet.
"The Other" Spidey humiliated KP, not post-OMD one 🙂And Logan going all out would be cutting everyone in half biscuits
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWYeah, that's what I meant, they take it because it sells books. Just like say Vulture putting up a fight against Spider-man. I mean, who'd buy a book with no fight scenes where Parker just knocks a silly dressed old guy out with a punch without even getting tagged once.
#73? You mean the panels that were out of context? What I wanted to see was Logan doing evasive maneuvers and failing.New Avengers... off-panel. Could be cheapshots, considering how many ninjas there were. Spidey didn't fare well in that fight with Hand either, the only guy that was kicking ass was Clint.
They don't care so much about getting hit anymore, they're used to it. And it's better to wade through the attacks and get the guy, faster. But I get what you're saying. Showing HFs in action sells the books.
And Clint is the pre-retconned Beyonder in disguise.😒
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTWYeah, he later punched a hole in it. He was always able to shatter IM's armor with punches. And when he hit his mask he was really pissed. And there was a time he fought that abomination looking monster with class 100 strength in the sewer. When Parker realised that thing isnt reall alive but more like a zombie and neeeds to be stopped at any cost he punched it so hard the pavement outside of the sewer cracked and people thought it was an eartquake.I thought Spidey ripped off Iron Man mask. He later punched a hole in it? Really? Kinda funny considering he busted his knuckle when he hit it first.
wolverine connecting with spider man and even retracting his claws at the last minute in one of the scans..
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6981/mcp2wq8.jpg
Originally posted by SamZED
Man, I know all those feats.🙁 Im not some raging Deadpool fanboy who refuses to accept that Wolverine is strong, fast etc. If anything ive been a Logan fan much longer han Wade's. Most of the times they fought I actually rooted for Logan. But yes I believe Wade's punches are almost as formidable. Its not like Logan punches someone's head off everytime he throws an all out punch. Deadpol's kicked off a head with a kick, broke a neck with a punch, koed a class 70 character, hurt other class 100, kicked people through walls etc. The difference isn't that big.
Again with the kicking 😠 He has longer legz!!! durhulk
You knew all of them and you still said he can replicate any of Logan's punching feats? 😐 Well, he can't. And speaking of consistency, dozens of on panel statements of adamantium increasing the power of his blows to the point he can one-shot most normal humans and even low metas don't convince you?
Of course he doesn't. Censorship, holding back, PIS, etc. Besides, not many comic book characters regardless of how strong they are have a privilege of doing that on daily basis.
Yes, kicked a head off. I read your post. Wolverine did the same without adamantium to a guy in exosuit.
Roughouse is in 75-100 Cl range.
Hurting Class 100... Wolverine's done it more often.
Two hits is all it took to obliterate Harada. Y'know, the guy whose armor took hits from Cannonball, Pete and freakin Sunspot.
Originally posted by SamZED
Logan going all out should be cutting through a few dozen Batmans imo. And I always thought its his CIS that stop him from kicking Elektra's ass every time they meet.
And yeah that was the Other Spider-man, but he was weakened and that was an example of a real pissed of Spider-man anyway. Post OMD Spider-man oneshotted Bullseye after being tortured by him for hours.Yeah, that's what I meant, they take it because it sells books. Just like say Vulture putting up a fight against Spider-man. I mean, who'd buy a book with no fight scenes where Parker just knocks a silly dressed old guy out with a punch without even getting tagged once.
And Clint is the pre-retconned Beyonder in disguise.😒
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Well, the fight from Imperfects pretty much proves you right.
Bullseye went easy on him 'cause he actually likes webslinger and his lame jokes. If he weren't such a Spider-Man fanboy, he wouldn't get his ass kicked.
What happened to rejuvenated Vulture from the nineties?
Originally posted by Starscream M
uh, spiderman let himalso, logans punch didn't do jack and logan admits spiderman could kill him...but the opposite isnt true
Snikt speed > Parker's hand speed
And...
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He's talking about the link above it dude.Leads to a different scan.
the point of the scan is logan can hit spiderman when his claws are drawn in.. the point that spiderman let him tackle him does not negate wolverine able to punch him rather then stab his face and kill him...
also wolverine did the same thing as the spider, logan let him tackle him and get close allowing spiderman to punch him so he could have a better shot at getting a clear shot at spiderman..
lastly no matter what logan said about spiderman might be able to kill him doesnt mean he can as we now know such an attack is ineffective to logan..
early in wolverine's career not much was known about him not even wolverine knew his limit he was guessing it would be what would kill him..
if logan gave him the same opportunity now nothing would happen.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the point of the scan is logan can hit spiderman when his claws are drawn in.. the point that spiderman let him tackle him does not negate wolverine able to punch him rather then stab his face and kill him...also wolverine did the same thing as the spider, logan let him tackle him and get close allowing spiderman to punch him so he could have a better shot at getting a clear shot at spiderman..
lastly no matter what logan said about spiderman might be able to kill him doesnt mean he can as we now know such an attack is ineffective to logann..
early in wolverine's career not much was known about him not even wolverine knew his limit he was guessing it would be what would kill him..
if logan gave him the same opportunity now nothing would happen.
it will still KO logan today
also, that scan shows logan's punches are useless against parker...it didnt even phase him
Originally posted by Starscream Mcare to show a scan of spiderman able to break an adamantium neck? hulk tried with punches to his neck spine area.
it will still KO logan todayalso, that scan shows logan's punches are useless against parker...it didnt even phase him
his punches are not useless taking one punch does not mean spiderman can take repeated blows without injury or wearing him down.
also would you like to show when such an attack would be viable for spiderman?
