Micheal and lucifer vs. spectre

Started by Black bolt z2 pages

Micheal and lucifer vs. spectre

Spectre is at his highest which i've been told is around tribunal level(correct me if I am wrong).

1. Primal Monitor (apparently)
2. Presence/great evil beast or whatever
3. Lucifer/Michael
4. Spectre

(i think that's DC's hierarchy)

Lucifer or Michael would still waste him.

Spectre being given the powers of The Source just might be more powerful.. At the time, he was literally God.

I think when Ostrander made that story, he was trying to write that The Source was another aspect of The Presence. Spectre in this form contained the DCU in his being.. He WAS the DCU at this time, aware of the start of the universe, it's growth, it's end, and all of the individual life forms within... And he had the power to wipe out all the life forms.....

So yeah, that version of Spectre could potentially match or exceed Michael and Lucifer, essentially being THE God for a time.

If FP Spectre is = to LT (and I believe that's a reasonable assumption, though we've never seen a Full Power Spectre, discounting amps like the Source) he still loses here since I'd give Mike and Lucy the clear win over LT.

Re: Micheal and lucifer vs. spectre

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Spectre is at his highest which i've been told is around tribunal level(correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong. Spectre fights werewolves and leprichauns while LT does fights omnipotents.

Either of the brothers solos.

Here's the scene I was talking about:

So Spectre essentially becomes God.

Re: Re: Micheal and lucifer vs. spectre

Originally posted by TheTyrant
You are wrong. Spectre fights werewolves and leprichauns while LT does fights omnipotents.

Either of the brothers solos.


Cute. You listened to Wild Shadow's criticisms of the character without understanding the context.

Spectre hasn't been at that low level since his inception and bringing up shit like that is about as cogent as bringing up Superman's AC#1 limitations in a discussion about modern Mainstream Superman.

LT never fought lepris or werewolves when he first appeared. And Spectre after a shitload of amp still gets beat up by beings not much more powerful than Eternity, if at all. Plus, when has anyone seen a fully powered Spectre again?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
LT never fought lepris or werewolves when he first appeared. And Spectre after a shitload of amp still gets beat up by beings not much more powerful than Eternity, if at all. Plus, when has anyone seen a fully powered Spectre again?
So so far spectre hasn't been shown to have a limit?That might make a difference since he is fully powered.

When did I say that Spectre hasn't shown any limits?

Any of the angels solo.

Mike/Lucy

Micheal and lucifer.

can someone explain what exactly is the great evil beats?

and "the source" of dc is what created DC?
and "the word" what exactly is it?

If for some reason God wanted Michael/Lucifer dead, he would probably send his vengeance personified (Spectre) to do the deed. My only point is, while I may agree that the duo would trounce any version of Spectre we've seen, Spectre likely has the potential to become more powerful.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
LT never fought lepris or werewolves when he first appeared. And Spectre after a shitload of amp still gets beat up by beings not much more powerful than Eternity, if at all. Plus, when has anyone seen a fully powered Spectre again?

But in his earliest appearance LT did engage in a battle with Nebulos and didn't one-shot him, they had something of a serious battle. Nebulos was defeated by being buried in a planet's debris, meaning Nebulos probably wasn't even Skyfather level and thus not even close to the sort of threats LT now concerns himself with.

Don't ****ing talk about characters you don't know shit about. In fact don't ****ing talk at all.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
can someone explain what exactly is the great evil beats?

and "the source" of dc is what created DC?
and "the word" what exactly is it?

Essentially, GEB is the "negative" of God created when God said "Let there be light."

Perhaps, but Lucifer did ignore the Source when he went to the Source Wall.

Originally posted by Galan007
If for some reason God wanted Michael/Lucifer dead, he would probably send his vengeance personified (Spectre) to do the deed. My only point is, while I may agree that the duo would trounce any version of Spectre we've seen, Spectre likely has the potential to become more powerful.

Maybe.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But in his earliest appearance LT did engage in a battle with Nebulos and didn't one-shot him, they had something of a serious battle. Nebulos was defeated by being buried in a planet's debris, meaning Nebulos probably wasn't even Skyfather level and thus not even close to the sort of threats LT now concerns himself with.

Don't ****ing talk about characters you don't know shit about. In fact don't ****ing talk at all.

I will keep talking. Spectre is a weakling that is useless against threats that can easily be dealt with by people like Thanos(when aliens invaded earth, happened in mid 90s).

And please do tell, how Nekron or Parallax or Anti-Monitor were/are more powerful than the embodiment of the multi-verse? They weren't/aren't. Your claims here are just as absurd as your claim of the Source being the supreme being of DC, while it was trapped for moments by Darkseid with the SF.

You just dont know what you are talking about. The spectre is as strong as he needs to be period you lowballing won't change that.