Originally posted by Mshinuhttp://images.comiccollectorlive.com/covers/8ca/8ca9edb2-76c2-4068-aa1d-1cb276e81b2a.jpg
Back it up with scans please 😉
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
be serious. i know your annoyed lately by the ignorance but, dont stoop top their lvl. 😬
Trying.....so..... hard....
But what am I supposed to do here?
I mean c'mon! Look at this!
We go to all the trouble of laying out entire careers of these characters that are no more than 4 mouse clicks away for the specific purpose of fixing the ignorance that runs rampant on these boards and people STILL come into these threads spouting out nonsense like:
Well so-and-so's stronger so they can beat Wolverine/Tooth.
Wolverine's not that skilled.
Christ, not several days ago we had to lay out how Logan can hit bricks hard enough to hurt them... This shouldn't be news to people and yet here we are 72 hours later being treated to the same ridiculous type of bull, insisting class 100 strength is all it takes to take these two out.
What happened to proving your case? No one seems to need to do that anymore. Instead, they're content stating things like "Gamora will win" and incidently that's enough..... Wait... wha?
Likewise, for those of us that do present our cases and lay out our arguments it's clear that all one has to do is shut one's eyes and the facts presented by evidence put before them all but cease to matter, afterall what's on more piece of on panel evidence to ignore when it comes to the Wolverine fams career?... Marvel's made an entire industry of selling the rivalry between Hulk and Wolverine and yet Wolverine being an anti-brick is easily ignored... all his victories over bricks are apparently PIS anyways....
I simply fail to see how anything you or I contribute here even matters when it's all burried underneath a sea of ignorance... and when it's not straight ignorance it's trolling and strawmen... 😬
For instance....
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sinister who isn't nearly as strong as Shulk physically owned Sabes. She Hulk stomps.
Good God... Do you even know who Sinister is?
Are you aware that the version of Sabretooth Sinister grabbed was NOT a well developed character and had yet to show any superhuman prowess beyond speed?
Are you ignorant to the fact that Sabretooth has had several upgrades, and massive upgrades at that, since then?
Are you of the opinion that Essex wouldn't own the crap out of She-Hulk to begin with, which once again draws me to question if you even know who he IS?
Do you seriously think this fight comes down to strength?
Against Sabretooth?
Are you willing to flat out ignore who Sabretooth HAS overcome with massive superhuman strength advantages? Most of them also having a strength edge over Sinister? Or who his weaker AOA counterpart has taken down with more of the same?
Do you not understand how strength alone is not an argument for Shulk winning this fight?
Do you really think it's a sane position to take in that we have a
Weaker, less HF effective, less durable Hulk
VS. a
Stronger, faster, faster healing, more durable version of Wolverine?
Batman wins... it's the only logical conclussion Shadow. 🙁
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sinister would not defeat She Hulk in a physical fight.
🤨
Y'see Shadow?! And this apparently counts enough to be considered a counter argument.
I'm guessing you're heads up your ass then because Sinister has taken on an entire team of X-men including Colossus... He would utterly wreck She-Hulk. There's virtually nothing she can do to beat him, same can't be said the other way around.
Originally posted by jinzin
🤨Y'see Shadow?! And this apparently counts enough to be considered a counter argument.
I'm guessing you're heads up your ass then because Sinister has taken on an entire team of X-men including Colossus... He would utterly wreck She-Hulk. There's virtually nothing she can do to beat him, same can't be said the other way around.
He used his other powers perhaps?
no reason to get mad,.... the best thing to do is ignore them or simply engage them in a feat and historical comic debate of the character and point out context of the situation.... after that if they continue ask them for evidence or circumstances that they continue to use and break it down.. they may not change their mind but others would read the debate and will make a more informed decision and have an opinion of the posters. its all we can do.. plus it will simply drive you insane if you let especially when some posters wont read the thread and just post.
Trying to educate a forum is regrettably pretty much doomed to fail. Most will just look in a handbook and dismiss Sinister as a weakling because he is listed as only class ten. Same with Sabes, he is just a low meta and in their minds can never be a threat to someone with a more impressive power grid. Never mind all the crazy showings he has under his belt.
Originally posted by Mshinu
Trying to educate a forum is regrettably pretty much doomed to fail. Most will just look in a handbook and dismiss Sinister as a weakling because he is listed as only class ten. Same with Sabes, he is just a low meta and in their minds can never be a threat to someone with a more impressive power grid. Never mind all the crazy showings he has under his belt.
Precisely! That's what i don't understand and I never will... This isn't D&D, higher power levels don't also dictate a winner and the handbook nonsense is almost ALWAYS wildly innacurate.... How many years did Marvel Handbooks state Logan couldn't recoup missing organs or massive amounts of damage? Like seriously wtf?!
