Also: For your edification:
From the MVF rules:
"7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed."
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAA!So you admit to mass gimping then, good. 🙂
A hollow victory it would be cause you had to restrict the SWers.As all can see. 🙂
[b]Anyways, the wizards were all crushed in hogwarts by the force when it bought the castle down, millennia ago in the thread.
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I admit what? Anyone with half a brain realized the OP here meant the wizards, their wands, their powers versus The Jedi/Sith, their force attacks, their lightsabers. ou're the one who brought in orbital bombardment when you realized that the force users would get thrashed going up against the wizards. My thread, I'm clarifying right now. No Death Star, no Star Destroyers.
But no, your trolling commences (same thing I was banned for, BTW) And now that I've turned the tables, showed that even with their orbital craft the Jedi lose, you're starting with the gimp cries. Hey, want another one? K......The Jedi had to have landed on Earth in drop ships, probably Republic gunships. The Jedi apparate aboard the gunships after the Jedi vacate them, Imperio the pilot/s, have them fly into space and the wizards vanish the ships there 😄 Then they return to Earth, have the pilots open up on the Jedi, while the wizards half apparate upon them and burn them to death. Lasers go right through smoke, dude.
With orbital craft or without, the Jedi lose here. How's about proving me wrong instead of crying gimp? Funny that you cry gimp when I do something like:
Prove they can't see Hogwarts.
Prove they can't get past the shields.
Prove their weaponry won't work.
Yeah, funny. And for the record, the MVF rule you quoted didn't stop you from clarifying in your thread, several pages in. I'm doing that now. No Star Destroyers, No Death Stars.
Nope the Wizards were killed fair and square being crushed inside hogwarts, you cried and tried to keep upping the ante/changing things, but SW naturally has more gears than HP, and the orbital Bombardment (Which was a fair move) was just an illustrator of that.
Nope. No trolling here. I can see that you are desperately scrabbling to drag me to your level though. And its not gonna work.
A) My clarification was a genuine one, though, not a blatant goalshifting attempt like you made 50+ pages in.
B) At the speed the thread moved, it was still very early on.
Totally different.
You've not proved that. If that happens, that gunship is blown from the sky. Besides, any Jedi there would precog it and kill the wizard who was about to do it anyways.
But since they are all dead, and crushed fair and square anyway, there'll be no need, Im sure.
It was raised and successfully disputed many times over. So let me clarify for YOU that Star Destroyers are present.
Ahhh. I see. Cant beat and ungimped SW universe can they, the wizards...? No, they clearly need you to keep gimping the SW forces for them, wiping their asses for them in combat. 🙂
Dude if you had any real confidence in them you wouldn't have to do it. 🙂
Also if you only have "Well in THAT case, the SW forces never found the wizards in the 1st place" (Denying the very possibility of the thread in the 1st place) - then you're done.
Orbital bombardment of everywhere round London, Kent and the surrounding boroughs should do it nicely. 🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope the Wizards were killed fair and square being crushed inside hogwarts, you cried and tried to keep upping the ante/changing things, but SW naturally has more gears than HP, and the orbital Bombardment (Which was a fair move) was just an illustrator of that.
There's no orbital bombardment. My thread, my rules. No Death Stars, no Star Destroyers. Deal with it.
The wizards, their magical powers, and their wands.
The Jedi, their force abilities, and their lightsabers.
This is all that can be discussed. You're welcome to ramble on and on about Star Destroyers and Death Stars, I will dismiss them every time. Why? There's no orbital craft. My thread, my rules. No Death Stars, no Star Destroyers. Deal with it.
Nope. No trolling here. I can see that you are desperately scrabbling to drag me to your level though. And its not gonna work.Sure.
You've not proved that. If that happens, that gunship is blown from the sky. Besides, any Jedi there would precog it and kill the wizard who was about to do it anyways.No, you see, the wizards are no longer on the gunships ❌
But since they are all dead, and crushed fair and square anyway, there'll be no need, Im sure.Nah. The Clones and Anakin (without orbital craft, my thread and all), never get past the protego shild.
It was raised and successfully disputed many times over. So let me clarify for YOU that Star Destroyers are present.Mmmmmmm no. The one person, me, who has the authority to condition the thread, has done so. There's no orbital bombardment. My thread, my rules. No Death Stars, no Star Destroyers. Deal with it.
Ahhh. I see. Cant beat and ungimped SW universe can they, the wizards...? No, they clearly need you to keep gimping the SW forces for them, wiping their asses for them in combat. 🙂Quite the opposite. You've accepted that SW cannot beat the wizards head on here, so you resorted to orbital bombardment. Fail. There's no orbital bombardment. My thread, my rules. No Death Stars, no Star Destroyers. Deal with it.
Dude if you had any real confidence in them you wouldn't have to do it. 🙂
Also if you only have "Well in THAT case, the SW forces never found the wizards in the 1st place" (Denying the very possibility of the thread in the 1st place) - then you're done.No, I allowed them to see the wizards. I actually gimped the wizards there.
Orbital bombardment of everywhere round London, Kent and the surrounding boroughs should do it nicely. 🙂There's no orbital bombardment. My thread, my rules. No Death Stars, no Star Destroyers. Deal with it.
So I was right, gimping, crying, denial of the lack of HP effectiveness in the face of the force. 🙂
Even minus start destoryers, the wizards were all crushed inside hogwarts.
You're constant flat out pretending it never happened is tantamount to trolling. Just like you used to troll the Mcclane/Ninja chick thing the same way.
Ignoring that McClane KO'd her first in combat, winning H2H.
Re: Harry Potter Magic versus the Force (Army thread).....
The OP:
Originally posted by Rogue JediEACH COMBATANT CAN USE ONLY WHAT POWERS THEY ARE SHOWN USING IN THEIR MOVIES.
Powers. Abilities. Things they spend their entire lives training in. Never, not once, is a Jedi shown training as a padawan how to run a Star Destroyer.
The wizards, their magical powers and their wands versus the Jedi, their force abilities and their lightsabers, on neutral ground, both with 30 minutes prep, it doesn't get any more even than that.
So, as I said, dismissed. My decision, not yours, to make it an even playing field.
Yeah and the wizards were all crushed ages ago, in the that scenario, yet STILL you ignore it.
The same old ostrich head in sand technique employed when you would troll/bait the McClane Ninja Chick thing.
Originally posted by Rogue JediSo, as I said, dismissed. My decision, not yours, to make it an even playing field.
You admitting having to gimp SW in oder to make such a thread reasonable match/defeat right there.... /\
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, that's nice. Doesn't change the fact that there are no Star Destroyers or Death Stars here.The wizards, their magical powers and their wands versus the Jedi, their force abilities and their lightsabers, on neutral ground, both with 30 minutes prep. Even playing field.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm, that's nice. Doesn't change the fact that there are no Star Destroyers or Death Stars here.The wizards, their magical powers and their wands versus the Jedi, their force abilities and their lightsabers, on neutral ground, both with 30 minutes prep. Even playing field.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthYou admitting having to gimp SW in order to make such a thread reasonable match/defeat right there.... /\
You also are trying to go against MVF rules.
The OP, two teams:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Two teams:Magic team:
Voldemort and the four Death Eaters from OOTP
Dumbledore
Bellatrix Lestrange
Sirius Black
Mad Eye Moody
Remus Lupin
Nymphadora Tonks
Kingsley Shacklebolt
Harry Potter
Hermione Granger
Fenrir Greyback
Filius Flitwick
Severus Snape
Minerva McGonagall
Ginny Weasley
Lucuis MalfoyForce team:
Darth Sidious
Darth Vader (ROTS to ROTJ)
Yoda
Mace Windu
Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)
Darth Maul
Qui Gon Jinn
Obi Wan Kenobi (ROTS)
Ki Adi Mundi
Aayla Secura
Plo Koon
Saesee Tinn
Sio Bibble
Depe Billaba
Eeth Koth
Count Dooku
Yaddle
Yarael Poof
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto20 Elite HP wizards versus 20 Elite SW Sith/Jedi.
No mention of Star Destroyers or Death Stars.
The location:
Originally posted by Rogue JediThey engage in an all out battle to the death. The battle takes place in Manhattan prison (Escape from NY), at night. Most of the prisoners are watching.
The conditions:
Originally posted by Rogue JediThe wizards know what the force users can do, and the Jedi know what the wizards can do. Each side has 30 minutes prep time. There is no felix felicis potion around. Harry has his invisibility cloak. The wizards who cannot apparate alone have firebolts that they can accio when they wish.
EACH COMBATANT CAN USE ONLY WHAT POWERS THEY ARE SHOWN USING IN THEIR MOVIES. However, if one of the Jedi, for example, were never shown using force push/pull onscreen, they can still use it, because durh it is a basic Jedi power. On the other hand, if one of the wizards is never shown using a simple wizard spell (Protego, for example) they can use it, because again, durh, it is a basic wizard power. the Jedi/Sith/Wizard would not be where they are if they didn't know these simple powers.
Morals are turned off here. It is kill or be killed.
That's it. Nothing else. There's no thread in the MVF, ever, that has been created with a more even playing field.
Why do you have issues with this?
Wizard vs. Jedi/Sith.......Magic vs. The Force. Neutral location. Equal numbers. Both sides have knowledge of the other. Both sides have 30 minutes prep.
Even Steven. I challenge you to find someone here who'll suggest otherwise.
No mention of wands or basic wizard equipment either.
Yet I recognise their right to be there....
I merely note that its a sign that SW is more powerful a 'universe' than HP, as you have to dilute the match up in favour of the Wizards 53 pages in, might i add, to even make the fight reasonably balanced.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Changing it 53 pages in.Also Wizards DONT train in magic all their lives, do they....?
Dont they start at 11 or something?
Clarifying. You're the one who, 40ish pages in, decided to take it upon himself to add shit.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthCommon sense, dude.
No mention of wands or basic wizard equipment either.Yet I recognise their right to be there....
I merely note that its a sign that SW is more powerful a 'universe' than HP, as you have to dilute the match up in favour of the Wizards 53 pages in, might i add, to even make the fight reasonably balanced.No, you were claiming that force attacks had superior screen feats than HPmagic did. I proved you wrong, then you went off on how the Force binds the galaxy together and shit.
Fact: HP magic spells in HPgalaxy has superior screen feats than the force attacks shown in the SW movies.
Wizard vs. Jedi/Sith.......Magic vs. The Force. Neutral location. Equal numbers. Both sides have knowledge of the other. Both sides have 30 minutes prep. I honestly cannot figure why you have problems with this.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. Mentioned the Star Destroyers way earlier in the thread.Yes. Now show some re: Star destroyers and dead rubble crushed wizards.
They are small scale, compared to the galaxy spanning power of the force. 🙂
Doesn't matter when you mentioned Star Destroyers. They're not in the OP, therefore they aren't in this fight. Got a problem with that? PM Impediment. My OP is in full accordance with MVF rules. And when you try to alter my OP, me clarifying to you the conditions, I am, again, in full accordance with MVF rules. The OP is law here, and when someone purposely misinterprets it, as you are doing now, out of spite, I am free to remind them of this.
Your attitude is "Well, the Jedi cannot defeat the wizards on their own, they need Star Destroyers."
Small scale? Last time I checked, the wizards can: Vanish objects. Summon Objects. Conjure objects. Fly. Become fast moving clouds of smoke, invincible to anything the Jedi throw at them. Become immortal. Kill instantly. Change objects into whatever they wish. Produce giant plumes of fiendfyre. Teleport. Mind rape anyone, at anytime, from vast distances. Many other things.
The Jedi? Force choke, force pull, force push, saber attack, force crush, and precog. All countered easily by apparition.