Originally posted by LLLLLink
@ Sin: Kratos has nothing on Link or the MS.
Link needs the Master Sword to defeat his foes and that sword couldn't even beat Volvagia or the Helmasaur King without a special hammer. Kratos can rip up harpies with his bare hands, shatter humans by slamming them onto the floor, break the necks of griffons, and broke a pillar when punching Zeus against it.
Kratos is everything Ganondorf wished he'd be.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Link needs the Master Sword to defeat his foes and that sword couldn't even beat Volvagia or the Helmasaur King without a special hammer.
Why does this make it weak? All this means is that it has sword-like properties, and that armor tends to deflect stabs and slashes, as armor usually does.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos can rip up harpies with his bare hands, shatter humans by slamming them onto the floor, break the necks of griffons, and broke a pillar when punching Zeus against it.
Pretty sure Link has the strength for this as well.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos is everything Ganondorf wished he'd be.
Ganondorf is already evil.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Why does this make it weak? All this means is that it has sword-like properties, and that armor tends to deflect stabs and slashes, as armor usually does.
Really? Then what was all that about Master Sword being uber? Kratos's Blades of Athena were able to scar a bronze giant and the Blades of Exile were able to cause Cronos to bleed despite being minuscule compared to the Titan. During the fight with Perseus, he destroyed a helmet with a stomp and broke a sword with his bare hands.
Pretty sure Link has the strength for this as well.
With gauntlets and he's only shown to lift and push things.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Really? Then what was all that about Master Sword being uber? Kratos's Blades of Athena were able to scar a bronze giant and the Blades of Exile were able to cause Cronos to bleed despite being minuscule compared to the Titan. During the fight with Perseus, he destroyed a helmet with a stomp and broke a sword with his bare hands.
You know what this means? It means that the armor on those bosses was too hard for Link to get through, and that whatever the bronze giant is made of (I assume bronze) isn't hard enough to stop Kratos. Congratulations, you've discovered absolutely nothing.
Not to mention armor doesn't really have moral choices, so it's pretty hard to make it evil unless you infuse it with evil power.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
With gauntlets and he's only shown to lift and push things.
Know what a punch is? I'll tell you, a push with a clenched fist.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
No.The Goddesses that created the Trueforce would be an atom compared to the ocean that is Beyonder in terms of power.
Originally posted by Heythere,Honey
The Beyonder is omnipotent. uhuh
Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient. Not only that, it is not classified as a no-limit fallacy because it does, in fact, have limits.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkthen its not omnipotent, because its limited. It can't even grant Ganon his wise fully and plus where was it stated?
Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient. Not only that, it is not classified as a no-limit fallacy because it does, in fact, have limits.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient.
it does, in fact, have limits.
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the way Wander did, except while being better than him. 😛
Cronos' strength is currently up for debate, it's based on GoW Atlas being the same as Atlas from myth, despite there being nothing to support that, and then Cronos being comparable to him in strength, based on a scene where physical strength could nto possibly have been the decisive factor. This, by extension would prove Kratos' strength, and by more extension, Zeus'.
So yeah. Also, Kratos can't deflect lightning in real time, it was telegraphed and I have posted screenshots before proving just that, he absorbed it through his weapons, which is retarded, by holding them out when Zeus threw the lightning.
In skill? Kratos has no showings of this that I can see putting him above Link. 😬
The master sword is = to the triforce in powerscale (not powerset, that would defeat the point in being a failsafe to the triforce... So different abilities, but on the same level.)
Link, while not as physicly strong as Kratos or the others, is physicly strong enough, with that sword, being all evil smitey, to harm Kratos. He's better in a sword fight, has better demonstrable striking speed, has a shield, and has better options at range. (Light arrows.)
There's also the whole time travel thing that provides him with an instant win. 😐
They have no idea where the weak-points are. That'll make it harder. Yep agree on that lightning part,(I think `-`) but not the time thing as he cant freely travel im time. (He's still effected by age.)
Link quickly became a Master swordsman (knightish style) and can use several weapons, Kratos was made into a Spartan since childhood up till his mid-life as a general(?) an uses a few weapons but mainly the difficult to use chained weapon. Link isnt looking more skilled, actually I doubt either will outclass the other in this area enough to make a difference.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Naw. The Trueforce is clearly stated to be omnipotent and omniscient. Not only that, it is not classified as a no-limit fallacy because it does, in fact, have limits.
Lol.
A true omnipotent would not have limits.
Not only that, but it took the combined power of the Three Goddesses to make t3h planet, and the Trueforce is a fraction of their power.
Omnipotent my ass 😛
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You know what this means? It means that the armor on those bosses was too hard for Link to get through, and that whatever the bronze giant is made of (I assume bronze) isn't hard enough to stop Kratos. Congratulations, you've discovered absolutely nothing.
So you agree that the Master Sword is nothing special compared to Kratos's weapons.
Know what a punch is? I'll tell you, a push with a clenched fist.
From your description, punches are harmless. A punch is a hard stroke with a closed fist.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the way Wander did, except while being better than him. 😛
Wander fought each Colossus at one time. He did not fight them all at once. Link is going to try fighting a Colossus, get shot down, and then get eaten, mauled, zapped, or crushed to death.
In skill? Kratos has no showings of this that I can see putting him above Link. 😬
Kratos has greater experience in warfare and actually led an army. He wields his blades faster than Link can wield that one-handed sword.
The master sword is = to the triforce in powerscale (not powerset, that would defeat the point in being a failsafe to the triforce... So different abilities, but on the same level.)
Obvious BS especially since it couldn't get through Volvagia's skin or a Helmasaur's head without a special hammer.
Link, while not as physicly strong as Kratos or the others, is physicly strong enough, with that sword, being all evil smitey, to harm Kratos. He's better in a sword fight, has better demonstrable striking speed, has a shield, and has better options at range. (Light arrows.)
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Link has a shield? Kratos doesn't need a shield as he can block with his swords or Golden Fleece. Link can't even block without a shield.
Better range options? By the time Link lets loose a Light Arrow, he'll be hit with a volley of fire arrows from Apollo's Bow. Kratos can even use the Claws of Hades to summon archers and a Siren that'll make Link reel in pain.
There's also the whole time travel thing that provides him with an instant win. 😐
Which isn't going to help at all. He just going to go back to the time when he was just a kid and Kratos doesn't live in Hyrule. Nor do the Colossi.