Wolverine vs.... THE KNOCK OUT!

Started by jinzin21 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
logan's lucky he didn't time travel from that
😂

if it Looks like a bait thread
talks like a bait thread
and sounds like a bait thread...

Poster. Wolverine owned.
Random other poster. That doesn't qualify because there are conditions that might...

Wolverine taking hit. Even if it's a glancing blow or not to the head...
Look evidence of jinzins point!

Dammit reading 9 pages of trash. Yes u baited me. U win.

imo, it's somewhat just bait.

there are two wolverines: team/samurai/ninja logan that can be defeated by skilled individuals but gives them a good fight, and then there is virtually indestructible little nightmare logan than is basically minus a sign around his neck ala bizarro but his says fighting me is suicide unless you can bust a team on a bad day.

Originally posted by rotiart
if it Looks like a bait thread
talks like a bait thread
and sounds like a bait thread...

Poster. Wolverine owned.
Random other poster. That doesn't qualify because there are conditions that might...

Wolverine taking hit. Even if it's a glancing blow or not to the head...
Look evidence of jinzins point!

Dammit reading 9 pages of trash. Yes u baited me. U win.

You sure you actually READ those pages cause... uhhh.. not one discussion has been REMOTELY like that thus far. 😕

Though you are entitled to your opinion... as undereducated as it may be.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
imo, it's somewhat just bait.

there are two wolverines: team/samurai/ninja logan that can be defeated by skilled individuals but gives them a good fight, and then there is virtually indestructible little nightmare logan than is basically minus a sign around his neck ala bizarro but his says fighting me is suicide unless you can bust a team on a bad day.

First... LOL to that last part.

Second... well you just kinda proved why this isn't a bait thread but why it's legitimate.

There are two Wolverine's in the same way that there are two Captain America's... one who has drawn out battles with other skilled fighters in his same weight class and one who punches out people like Namor, Hulk, and members of the Wrecking Crew.

The only real difference is that most people KNOW that Cap punching Hulk unconscious isn't something that's going to be taken seriously in the forums because that's not something in line with how he's typically portrayed, where as with Wolverine people ignore the way he's typically portrayed to forward agendas where Wolverine can be taken down by regular human punches and a bullet to the head.

The fact is that while there are two extremes of Wolverine's representation here and there there's also a point in Wolverine's more consistent showings residing in the high end of the spectrum far more often then they reside in the low end.

It's typical for arguments on these boards to go exactly how I pointed out earlier where people assume Logan can be taken down by "less" by citing references with innaccurate accounts of what took place.

If this ridiculous anti-Wolverine propaganda is going to persist by the same members in the same threads then we need to begin proving our cases.

Originally posted by jinzin
First... LOL to that last part.

Second... well you just kinda proved why this isn't a bait thread but why it's legitimate.

There are two Wolverine's in the same way that there are two Captain America's... one who has drawn out battles with other skilled fighters in his same weight class and one who punches out people like Namor, Hulk, and members of the Wrecking Crew.

The only real difference is that most people KNOW that Cap punching Hulk unconscious isn't something that's going to be taken seriously in the forums because that's not something in line with how he's typically portrayed, where as with Wolverine people ignore the way he's typically portrayed to forward agendas where Wolverine can be taken down by regular human punches and a bullet to the head.

The fact is that while there are two extremes of Wolverine's representation here and there there's also a point in Wolverine's more consistent showings residing in the high end of the spectrum far more often then they reside in the low end.

It's typical for arguments on these boards to go exactly how I pointed out earlier where people assume Logan can be taken down by "less" by citing references with innaccurate accounts of what took place.

If this ridiculous anti-Wolverine propaganda is going to persist by the same members in the same threads then we need to begin proving our cases.

Nobody takes you serioulsy!!!!! You just don't get it do you? You think by creating this thread you're going to prove your point? Why the hell would they take a thread started by a Wolverine fanboy serioulsy? You just want people to rollover and accept your interpretation.

You want this thread taken serioulsy get somebody impartial.

Originally posted by Deadline
Nobody takes you serioulsy!!!!! You just don't get it do you? You think by creating this thread you're going to prove your point? Why the hell would they take a thread started by a Wolverine fanboy serioulsy? You just want people to rollover and accept your interpretation.

You want this thread taken serioulsy get somebody impartial.

I'm not seeing a comic debate here, just bashing. Nobody's rolling over and accepting anything, and this is a valid discussion topic. The fact that he's a Wolverine fan doesn't invalidate the topic nor the discussion, though you're always free to disagree with him respectfully. So. If you have something to contribute, do so. If not, stop this.

Originally posted by Digi
The fact that he's a Wolverine fan doesn't invalidate the topic nor the discussion,

You're not here enough to see whats going on. I didn't say fan I said fanboy yes it pretty much invalidates the topic and im not the only one who has a problem with how this thread is being constructed.

Yeah I could be more polite about it, its actually good advice but could be stated more politely.

Single hit ko:

Pip
Jahf
Victor Hudson
Exploding Plane Crash..( explosion fire, impact was the cause)
Domino(bullet to the dome mini ko lasting 1 panel.. few seconds at best).

Repeated hits solo fighting no help of any kind:

The Thing(ko'ed a dazed wolverine)
Juggernaut(three hits to ko... iirc)
Sasquatch
Skaar(Ko'ed logan via a kick and impaled by a tree might have bn the cause)
WWH(TKO took about 6 hits)

Originally posted by Deadline
You're not here enough to see whats going on.

lul. I'm here every day, see every report, read way more than I post, and have known you and jin for years on the forums. So tell me again how my opinion is invalidated because I don't agree with you?

Besides that, you're doing nothing to invalidate my point that you were bashing, not contributing. If you think it's a bait thread, either refute him or leave. Because mudslinging just gets posters warned and threads closed. It rarely, if ever, accomplishes anything. There HAS been good discussion in this thread, which I've read all of btw. You'd do well not to derail it.

Originally posted by Digi
lul. I'm here every day, see every report, read way more than I post, and have known you and jin for years on the forums.

So eveytime theres a Wolverine vs thread you read all the arguments being posted? Hell you even stated in a pm to me you don't scan the forum enough to always see whats going.

Originally posted by Digi
So tell me again how my opinion is invalidated because I don't agree with you?

Except now you're putting words into my mouth, and this isn't first time. I have no problem with your opinion I just think its misinformed that a certain person is a 'fan' due to the time you spend on the forum.

Originally posted by Digi

Besides that, you're doing nothing to invalidate my point that you were bashing, not contributing. If you think it's a bait thread, either refute him or leave. Because mudslinging just gets posters warned and threads closed. It rarely, if ever, accomplishes anything.

I agree. Its not that its a bait thread its a biased thread. The problem is how im expressing my opinion I should do it more politely. Yes im bashing and I should stop.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yes im bashing and I should stop.

...which is what it boils down to. If it continues at all, in this thread or otherwise, there will be a warning involved. Because, having gone back to look specifically at your contributions, you began your posting in this thread with bashing, despite normal debate going on in the thread. You've been trolling, period, and it needs to stop now.

Originally posted by Deadline
So eveytime theres a Wolverine vs thread you read all the arguments being posted? Hell you even stated in a pm to me you don't scan the forum enough to always see whats going.

Which is invalidated by the fact that I've been following this thread very clsoely. I knew from page 1 that there was a potential problem here. You'd know that if you read the entire thread. This isn't my first trip around the block. So, context.

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Originally posted by Deadline
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Triple edit...durlaugh

I love when Digi gets serious.

Makes me tingly in the nether regions.

Originally posted by Deadline
Nobody takes you serioulsy!!!!! You just don't get it do you? You think by creating this thread you're going to prove your point? Why the hell would they take a thread started by a Wolverine fanboy serioulsy? You just want people to rollover and accept your interpretation.

You want this thread taken serioulsy get somebody impartial.

seriously, learns how to spell seriously

just a question, how many instances are there, for any character, of getting knocked out without having previously taken damage or not being 100%?

Wow. Thank you Digi. I appreciate that.

Umm Shadow
you left out the Hulk 181 hit... Though, now that I think about it, Wolverine did just recover from getting gassed..

Also, Daken the first time they fought, it was a TKO via bleedout, but Wolverine was down for quite a bit there.

Originally posted by Trackz
just a question, how many instances are there, for any character, of getting knocked out without having previously taken damage or not being 100%?
don't know, but since most of those characters don't have powers that directly contribute to keeping them from getting KO'd how much does that necessarily matter?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
WWH(TKO took about 6 hits)

http://img62.imageshack.us/i/70877240kh7.jpg/

http://img62.imageshack.us/i/92196991hl0.jpg/

http://img62.imageshack.us/i/84399283zt4.jpg/

^ that's a ko bro, the point where he stops slashing at hulk is when it's safe to say he was gone.