Barda vs Thor

Originally posted by Konton
I'd give them a 5/5 split for the first scenario.

Second could go either way too. Thor has more offensive power, but Barda can always just use the motherbox.

Physically, I think they're a good match. Barda's class 100, probably more or less in Herc's range, highly skilled in hand to hand, and pretty durable to blunt force (And can even take bullets to an extent, although she's weak against piercing damage)

Thor gets the edge in raw strength, but Barda's at least comparable to Wonder Woman.

A few noteworthy feats:

Narrowly losing a sparring match with Wonder Woman, but getting WW to admit she would have won had Diana not forced her to give up her weapon after Barda disarmed WW, to make the match fair. It really could've gone either way, looking at the fight.

Defeating Wonder Woman 1 million. While she did finish her off with a weapon she borrowed from Steel, she didn't have the gun at the start of the match, and it's kind of redundant as her Mega Rod doubles as a nerve beam...

Fighting Knockout to a draw. Knockout smacked out Mon El, and Superboy in the past...

Restraining an enraged Orion.

Barda coz she is hot

she was hot in that Plastic Man dress...😉

Originally posted by Konton
I'd give them a 5/5 split for the first scenario.

Second could go either way too. Thor has more offensive power, but Barda can always just use the motherbox.

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Originally posted by cdtm

Also, might want to work on those reading comprehension skills a little.. I never said Barda gave Superboy hell. I said Knockout did, in addition to helping Superboy beat up Valor. Knockout is another Fury of Apokolips, and someone Barda fought to a draw.

And by 'Draw,' Knockout was barely standing by the end. It was really impressive of her to even hold off Barda basically, iirc.

yeah Barda could be a beast. she has the mega rod that could KO very durable opponents. im guessing she's even wearing her apocalyptan armor on this match which has been known to boost her str and dur some. i still dont see her taking the majority over Thor in both match settings.

Originally posted by Q99
And by 'Draw,' Knockout was barely standing by the end. It was really impressive of her to even hold off Barda basically, iirc.

About halfway through it looked like Knockout was barely standing, but seemed like she got her second wind. By the very end, she was talking fine, asking Barda if she wanted to stop, and shook hands in mid air after leaping out of that iced over water.

Although yeah, even holding your own is impressive. Impressed Barda enough to compliment her.

Originally posted by cdtm
So what you're saying is you know nothing of Barda, likely as much about the New Gods, and don't particularly care because Thor's your boy. Ok.

Also, might want to work on those reading comprehension skills a little.. I never said Barda gave Superboy hell. I said Knockout did, in addition to helping Superboy beat up Valor. Knockout is another Fury of Apokolips, and someone Barda fought to a draw.

And since you probably don't know who Valor is, he's a Daxamite. Maybe you're recognize him by his other name: Mon El, of the Legion of Super Heroes.

Based on the fact that I didn't read an issue that featured an impressive showing of Barda you can come to the conclusion I know nothing of her and the New Gods? Lol. Thor being my boy has nothing to do with my opinion here. I just haven't seen the evidence necessary to suggest that she would take a near split from Thor.

So by your lack of an answer I'm assuming DC Thor hasn't actually done anything noteworthy for us to judge whether or not, taking him on is impressive.

Irony. Since it's obvious that reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits, let me break down our conversation to you:

- You said that Barda stalemated Knockout, a being who gave Superboy hell etc.
- Then I stated that based on the fact that Knockout gave Superboy hell, Barda would undoubtedly beat Thor (As Barda was able to stalemate Knockout who was able to something as amazing as give Superboy hell.). I was of course being sarcastic if you didn't notice.

😐

I know who Valor is.

Well, there is Barda matching Wonder Woman. She lost, but not easily and could have won if not for WW's insistence on a "fair fight", e.g. Barda not allowed to use her weapon.

Oddly enough, Wonder Woman won due to her ability to fly, catching Barda off guard with a sucker kick. 🙄

I mean, if you're gonna get holier than thou about fair play, maybe stay grounded against an opponent who doesn't have the ability to fly under her own power?

It wasn't insistance on a fair fight- Wonder Woman actually disarmed her.

Here's the fight in question:

http://img57.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img57&image=MM6-1.jpg
http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68&image=MM6-2.jpg
http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68&image=MM6-3.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-4.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-5.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-6.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-7.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img59&image=MM6-8.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img59&image=MM6-9.jpg

(Disarm in page 6)

Honestly it seemed like a perfectly legitimate move to me. I think they were just talking hypotheticals and battle philosophy.

Originally posted by Q99
It wasn't insistance on a fair fight- Wonder Woman actually disarmed her.

Here's the fight in question:

http://img57.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img57&image=MM6-1.jpg
http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68&image=MM6-2.jpg
http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img68&image=MM6-3.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-4.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-5.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-6.jpg
http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=MM6-7.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img59&image=MM6-8.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img59&image=MM6-9.jpg

(Disarm in page 6)

Honestly it seemed like a perfectly legitimate move to me. I think they were just talking hypotheticals and battle philosophy.

I actually edited my message because it wasn't the Mega Rod Barda was talking about, it was her staff. My mistake.

I guess WW didn't want Barda using her stave for the match, on account that she didn't have a weapon to use. So, she used Barda's stave, and let her use her Mega Rod.

Which still makes it wrong for her to use her exclusive flight ability. If I was Barda, I'd insist on a no flying rule if she was insisting on a no weapon vs unarmed combatant rule..

It's only fair, as the range on the battle staff would help even up Barda's flying disadvantage.

Thanks for that Q99. I was about to go dig for the issue.

That was a nice performance for Barda, but based on that fight, her taking a near split with Thor is well.....they aren't good.

Was this before the first or second upgrade for Diana?

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, there is Barda matching Wonder Woman. She lost, but not easily and could have won if not for WW's insistence on a "fair fight", e.g. Barda not allowed to use her weapon.

Oddly enough, Wonder Woman won due to her ability to fly, catching Barda off guard with a sucker kick. 🙄

I mean, if you're gonna get holier than thou about fair play, maybe stay grounded against an opponent who doesn't have the ability to fly under her own power?

It wasn't really off guard. Barda saw her coming and had her arms raised in a defensive position. Diana is just faster.

Wonder Woman is considered one of the most hypocritical characters by a lot of people I've come across.

Barda has displayed faster feats than WW, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Barda has displayed faster feats than WW, IMO.

Speaking outside of combat feats, IMO Barda's characterization was all off in her JLA run..

I liked her much better in Birds of Prey.

ctdm

I guess WW didn't want Barda using her stave for the match, on account that she didn't have a weapon to use. So, she used Barda's stave, and let her use her Mega Rod.

Hm, why didn't Diana have her lasso, or staff, or sword or similar? Kinda odd.

The mega rod is better than the staff, and really in most fights they would be both armed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Wonder Woman is considered one of the most hypocritical characters by a lot of people I've come across.

Which is ironic, considering in her book she's very much not hypocritical and is quite down-to-earth and strait forwardly honest about most things. Spirit of truth and all that.

People have this odd image of her as high-and-aloof, which is generally pretty different than how she actually acts.

Prep-man
Barda has displayed faster feats than WW, IMO.

Diana's best speed feats include catching someone at the edge of the speed force, which I don't think Barda can top.

People just think she's hypocritical because Circe says so.

I don't get a sense of hypocrisy from Diana at all. The whole "Amazon warrior upbringing/diplomat aiming for world peace" is an interesting parallel and sense of duality, but nothing I would fault her as a character for.

One gets the sense that some people think she's talking down at them and standing separate due to simply her power and position (one of her human villains from Rucka's run, Veronica Cale, definitely did, so it's not even purely an out-of-universe thing either).

Of course, this is a person who worked at a McDonalds and sincerely apologized and offered to resign for missing work, the noble task of providing food for others, due to having to stop a supervillain. 🙂 Her boss gave her a pass.

Originally posted by Konton
People just think she's hypocritical because Circe says so.