Originally posted by kgkgYou realize that this trick Stephen pulled actually blocked Void, don't you?
Strange has the ability to stop time that didn't help him defeat the Void.Void kill Loki with the Norm Stones with a gester what are you talking about?
Even if RKT destroys Void he can instantly pop right back to life no?
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Originally posted by kgkg
Strange has the ability to stop time that didn't help him defeat the Void.Void kill Loki with the Norm Stones with a gester what are you talking about?
Even if RKT destroys Void he can instantly pop right back to life no?
He slow time so Strange can talk to Richards, that was not pretain to the battle, nice try.
Strange is Odin or RKT.
Face it Void has run into a buzzsaw in RKT.
Originally posted by BlanketHe took Reed away from linear time so they could talk. It allowed them to talk but it didn't stop the Void.
You realize that this trick Stephen pulled actually blocked Void, don't you?...
The point was that Strange had time manipulation power and he couldn't stop the Void so he needed Reed to convince Sentry to do it.
Main point is if time Stop - BFR was possible it would have been done by the marvel earth heroes.
Originally posted by the DarkoneOk like I said I really don't care if you believe Thor wins. I'm asking for an explanation.
He slow time so Strange can talk to Richards, that was not pretain to the battle, nice try.Strange is Odin or RKT.
Face it Void has run into a buzzsaw in RKT.
I already showed you power output doesn't stop the Void he can just come back.
A mental attack is probably the best option in talking the Void but than it would be character and Sentry vs Void.
Originally posted by kgkgBut it still blocked Void. Meaning his powers worked.
He took Reed away from linear time so they could talk. It allowed them to talk but it didn't stop the Void.The point was that Strange had time manipulation power and he couldn't stop the Void so he needed Reed to convince Sentry to do it.
Main point is if time Stop - BFR was possible it would have been done by the marvel earth heroes.
You and I both know that that's not how comics work. Time manipulation wasn't used against Void, only as a means of defense/buying a moment, and it showed that Void's not above it, even then.
Originally posted by the DarkoneWhat? Nothing the RK Thor does can defeat the Void. Thanos can attack his mind while engaging him whereas Thor cannot so he loses. Void's only weakness is his mind and since Thor can;'t exploit it he loses.
that's your mistake, RKT and Maker are two different beings, one has control over themself while the other was off there rocker. RKT can see the past,present, future at the same time, it would be fighting Odin who would be 2-3x more powerful.
Originally posted by the DarkoneThe writer stated the only reason they beat the Void is he allowed it so no the norn stones can't do anything other than damage which he can reform from and keep coming back.
Uh no it wasn't. The norn stones was huring Void point blank, killing Loki was the key for him to overcome the norn stones. Rune Magic + Odinforce which has feats>>> Void.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI think he weakens his mind enough to get the job done by attacking it. Thor can't so Thor loses.
I don't see Doctor Strange stopping time there.So he defeats the Void when he transforms into Bob Reynolds?
Originally posted by BlanketWhat? Seriously, if you read anything about the Void you'd realize the heroes were out of options against the Void who is more powerful than all of them combined. You have to prove timestop can defeat/effect the Void.
But it still blocked Void. Meaning his powers worked.You and I both know that that's not how comics work. Time manipulation wasn't used against Void, only as a means of defense/buying a moment, and it showed that Void's not above it, even then.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo, I am saying Thanos can attack his mind itself while Thor can't. Void wins. You can't even give a serious argument to back Thor up. I might need to take up the helm for Thor for a while around here. You abandoned him.
So your suggesting attacks that go beyond the physical will work? Fine. Thor uses some life force and soul manipulation.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusFor the moment so even with his ability they still couldn't defeat the Void just buy themselves more time. Thanks for helping the Void's case you Thor deserter.
In the above scan, Doctor Strange manipulated time around him and Richards for a few moments and that apparently kept them safe from the Void.Thor stops itself completely and goes to work from there.
Originally posted by Blanket
But it still blocked Void. Meaning his powers worked.
Strange could have used this on any character in the same situation of the Void. The point of the scan was to show that Strange did have these powers and used it meaning it it gives more credibility that if time dumping void was possible it would probably have been done.
Originally posted by BlanketYes just because someone doesn’t try X doesn’t necessarily means X doesn’t work. But one has to prove that those things will work on a character not vise versa.
You and I both know that that's not how comics work. Time manipulation wasn't used against Void, only as a means of defense/buying a moment, and it showed that Void's not above it, even then.
But it’s a safe bet to assume that it doesn’t until otherwise proven when Void was a threat to the entire Universe and it was made pretty clear that there is nothing that could stop the Void other than Sentry himself.
Originally posted by kgkgBut it did affect Void. Did it not buy Strange time?
Strange powers work. I wasn’t claiming that Strange cannot affect time just that it wasn’t something that was used to stop the Void.Strange could have used this on any character in the same situation of the Void. The point of the scan was to show that Strange did have these powers and used it meaning it it gives more credibility that if time dumping void was possible it would probably have been done.
Yes just because someone doesn’t try X doesn’t necessarily means X doesn’t work. But one has to prove that those things will work on a character not vise versa.
But it’s a safe bet to assume that it doesn’t until otherwise proven when Void was a threat to the entire Universe and it was made pretty clear that there is nothing that could stop the Void other than Sentry himself.
Yes, Strange could have, but he didn't against Void, making this a practical example of CIS, and nothing else.
I never said it would be a viable thing to use. I just found it absolutely laughable of an example to use.
It's a safer bet that it would work actually based on your scan... I mean, Void was staved off from the use of the powers, no? You probably should have just fabricated it without using the scan...
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am saying Thanos can attack his mind itself while Thor can't. Void wins. You can't even give a serious argument to back Thor up. I might need to take up the helm for Thor for a while around here. You abandoned him.
You might now know this but Thor has displayed telepathic abilities in the past on his own. With the Odin Force and the Runes, telepathy is no doubt something that is easily accessible to him. Odin hear's stray thoughts about him on Earth while pondering in Asgard.
Thor Godblasts him to death or sucks out his life force. Happy?
Originally posted by quanchi112
For the moment so even with his ability they still couldn't defeat the Void just buy themselves more time. Thanks for helping the Void's case you Thor deserter.
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Originally posted by Blanket
But it did affect Void. Did it not buy Strange time?
With this logic Strange can beat anybody with time stop?
Originally posted by Blanket Yes, Strange could have, but he didn't against Void, making this a practical example of CIS, and nothing else.
Originally posted by Blanket I never said it would be a viable thing to use. I just found it absolutely laughable of an example to use.
Originally posted by Blanket It's a safer bet that it would work actually based on your scan... I mean, Void was staved off from the use of the powers, no? You probably should have just fabricated it without using the scan...
Strange has done similar things while fighting abstract level if not mistaken.
Originally posted by kgkg
Out of curiosity how does Thor win here?
Outside of outright stomping Void with spells? RKT has so much more options and having cosmic awareness he'll likely use them. RKT displayed this when he saw through the guise of recurring Ragnaroks. RKT will know Bob became Sentry through the serum and his struggles to keep the Void at bay.
- RKT uses his magic to aid Bob/Sentry's mind to overcome the Void. Then Thor k.o.s an unsuspecting Sentry long enough for a win.
- RKT goes back in time and kills Bob before he becomes Sentry/Void.
- RKT enters Void's mind and destroys him from there.
