Originally posted by JakeTheBank
👆Thanos getting beatdown by Odin = not being defeated by Odin, despite the fact his clone seems to think he was. A vague upgrade later, Thanos is suddenly far more powerful Odin and Void alike.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I really don't see how anyone with two working brain cells could twist it that far. Wolverine getting one-shotted by KT's eyebeams after failing to do any real damage when he had a clean shot at Thor's arm is pretty unequivocal evidence that KT>>>>>>>>>>Wolverine. Their fight reminded me of when Darkseid erased Batman in Rock of Ages.
dont try to twist the things i said because i never said wolverine can hang with KT or that he is a match for KT but what i did say and will say again is the simple fact as they show on panel that wolverine cut hurt KT to the point he was holding that wound which means he isnt that much uber as you try to portray him because there are less powerful beings then him that got cut and stabbed by wolverine and kept fighting without even reacting to the cuts which means while KT can be powerful his durability is in question since it was never proved he gains more durability
Originally posted by battleclub
dont try to twist the things i said because i never said wolverine can hang with KT or that he is a match for KT but what i did say and will say again is the simple fact as they show on panel that wolverine cut hurt KT to the point he was holding that wound which means he isnt that much uber as you try to portray him because there are less powerful beings then him that got cut and stabbed by wolverine and kept fighting without even reacting to the cuts which means while KT can be powerful his durability is in question since it was never proved he gains more durability
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Wolverine being able to do some superficial damage to King Thor doesn't actually prove anything. Like at all. He attacks an unprepared King Thor. In a real battle he wouldn't even touch him much less harm him.
Common sense would dictate that unless his amping, King Thor has his classic base stats. At least when he isn't prepared for battle.
Physical amping, specifically strength and durability is something that King Thor is very well known for. That besides his uber eye beams.
It's interesting that King Thor relied mostly on purely physical methods. Odin was well known for going down the mystical route and not punching or brawling. Even when he was punching or brawling, the shit took place on multiple planes across reality or resorted in Galaxies being destroyed.
Originally posted by battleclub
dont try to twist the things i said because i never said wolverine can hang with KT or that he is a match for KT but what i did say and will say again is the simple fact as they show on panel that wolverine cut hurt KT to the point he was holding that wound which means he isnt that much uber as you try to portray him because there are less powerful beings then him that got cut and stabbed by wolverine and kept fighting without even reacting to the cuts which means while KT can be powerful his durability is in question since it was never proved he gains more durability
He stood up to Desak merged Destroyer's visor blast, something that takes insane durability.
He also murdered Hulk and Thing in h/h without Mjolnir and without the OF.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😬Wolverine being able to do some superficial damage to King Thor doesn't actually prove anything. Like at all. He attacks an unprepared King Thor. In a real battle he wouldn't even touch him much less harm him.
Common sense would dictate that unless his amping, King Thor has his classic base stats. At least when he isn't prepared for battle.
Physical amping, specifically strength and durability is something that King Thor is very well known for. That besides his uber eye beams.
It's interesting that King Thor relied mostly on purely physical methods. Odin was well known for going down the mystical route and not punching or brawling. Even when he was punching or brawling, the shit took place on multiple planes across reality or resorted in Galaxies being destroyed.
i was going to respond with some logic but when i started to read your post its nothing but stupid speculations and idiotic ideas that you made out of your ass
wolverine wouldnt touch king thor because he is so mighty he is that and he is that you sound like some retarded 10 year old seriously i dont give a shit about your speculations or anyones else i care about pure facts and logic and if it show us that king thor is very powerful but he can still be hurt badly by something like wolverines cut that means his durability isnt all that, besides how many apearences did he have for you to make a desicion that he is by far more durable? prove that
seriously? he got all physical upgrades which include being physically stronger and more durable? back that up with a proof
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Quit lowballing kid.He stood up to Desak merged Destroyer's visor blast, something that takes insane durability.
He also murdered Hulk and Thing in h/h without Mjolnir and without the OF.
oh shut up already seriously thats his only feat that his fanboys just love to wank so much, piercing and foce attacks are different things and as i said again the showing with logan is no less proof then that desak showing and your showing isnt more of a proof and doesnt hold more weight
and he killed hulk and thing? thathappened in a different universe that isnt 616 so it doesnt count nice try moron
Originally posted by battleclub
i was going to respond with some logic but when i started to read your post its nothing but stupid speculations and idiotic ideas that you made out of your asswolverine wouldnt touch king thor because he is so mighty he is that and he is that you sound like some retarded 10 year old seriously i dont give a shit about your speculations or anyones else i care about pure facts and logic and if it show us that king thor is very powerful but he can still be hurt badly by something like wolverines cut that means his durability isnt all that, besides how many apearences did he have for you to make a desicion that he is by far more durable? prove that
seriously? he got all physical upgrades which include being physically stronger and more durable? back that up with a proof
What exactly are you trying argue here?
Originally posted by battleclub
i was going to respond with some logic but when i started to read your post its nothing but stupid speculations and idiotic ideas that you made out of your asswolverine wouldnt touch king thor because he is so mighty he is that and he is that you sound like some retarded 10 year old seriously i dont give a shit about your speculations or anyones else i care about pure facts and logic and if it show us that king thor is very powerful but he can still be hurt badly by something like wolverines cut that means his durability isnt all that, besides how many apearences did he have for you to make a desicion that he is by far more durable? prove that
seriously? he got all physical upgrades which include being physically stronger and more durable? back that up with a proof
I swear to god, we should make passing an I.Q. test with a score of over 60 mandatory before you register on KMC. It would really clean up these boards.
What speculation you moron? Anyone who read Reigning realizes that physical amping is one of his more noticeable traits. He dented Captain America's shield in a blow right after he accessed the Odin Force and was using it way below it's potential. He one shotted Desak merged with the Destroyer armor. That covers the strength section. Him tanking Desak Destroyer's Visor Beam indicates that his durability takes a significant boost in battle. It makes sense looking at Odin's history. In battle he takes galaxy busting forces without even flinching.
Do you not understand that Wolverine caught him off guard before King Thor could defend himself? Logic dictates that he keeps his base level durability when he isn't in battle which would make sense if you look at Odin's history.
I don't think you even know what your trying to argue.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What exactly are you trying argue here?
actually i admit KT is a beast and will own etrigan but i just pointed out him being damaged by wolverine and it makes me mad seing how some people are trying to pretend like it didnt happen or its a total bullshit seriously he is a beast but dont ignore feats you dont like
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I swear to god, we should make passing an I.Q. test with a score of over 60 mandatory before you register on KMC. It would really clean up these boards.What speculation you moron? Anyone who read Reigning realizes that physical amping is one of his more noticeable traits. He dented Captain America's shield in a blow right after he accessed the Odin Force and was using it way below it's potential. He one shotted Desak merged with the Destroyer armor. That covers the strength section. Him tanking Desak Destroyer's Visor Beam indicates that his durability takes a significant boost in battle. It makes sense looking at Odin's history. In battle he takes galaxy busting forces without even flinching.
Do you not understand that Wolverine caught him off guard before King Thor could defend himself? Logic dictates that he keeps his base level durability when he isn't in battle which would make sense if you look at Odin's history.
I don't think you even know what your trying to argue.
how is it logical that when he is not ready for attack he is less durable then when he is ready? so you are telling me that in order for KT to fight properly he must see the attack otherwise any fool can take him out? are you retarded or some shit? wtf does being surprised got to do with his durability? so if he was expecting logan to cut him his durability would be higher? f^ck off idiot you are stating retarded stuff
Originally posted by battleclub
actually i admit KT is a beast and will own etrigan but i just pointed out him being damaged by wolverine and it makes me mad seing how some people are trying to pretend like it didnt happen or its a total bullshit seriously he is a beast but dont ignore feats you dont like
Ok. Well, it's good to see you agree that King Thor owns Etrigan.
He was damaged by Logan, yes. Logan attacked Thor and his family in his own home, and managed to deal enough surface damage to Thor's skin to cause him to protest in pain.
But when you look at the Odin Force's record of physical amping - being able to withstand the Destroyer's disintegration beams, surviving a blow which would have killed Classic Thor (per Thor #600), it's obvious that in the heat of battle, Thor's base level strength and durability alike increase.
Had Thor been ready for him, Logan wouldn't have reached him to being with, much less cause him damage.
Originally posted by battleclub
how is it logical that when he is not ready for attack he is less durable then when he is ready? so you are telling me that in order for KT to fight properly he must see the attack otherwise any fool can take him out? are you retarded or some shit? wtf does being surprised got to do with his durability? so if he was expecting logan to cut him his durability would be higher? f^ck off idiot you are stating retarded stuff
My god, the level of stupidity in this one post is monumental.
Listen you spastic moron, a being who wields the Odin Force has the ability to amp one's physical abilities. When a being who wields the Odin Force isn't using it to amp their physical abilities, they remain at their base levels.
That's why Odin whose physical capabilities at base are far below Thor's can beat the shit out of Thor, Hulk, and Superman in a brawl if he felt like it.
Of course it makes sense. If Thor's lounging in his home with his wife and child, clearly he wouldn't be on his guard. Wolverine attacked him when he was not ready and was able to do some minor damage. If Thor saw him coming, Wolverine wouldn't be able to give Thor a hair cut if he didn't want him to.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ok. Well, it's good to see you agree that King Thor owns Etrigan.He was damaged by Logan, yes. Logan attacked Thor and his family in his own home, and managed to deal enough surface damage to Thor's skin to cause him to protest in pain.
But when you look at the Odin Force's record of physical amping - being able to withstand the Destroyer's disintegration beams, surviving a blow which would have killed Classic Thor (per Thor #600), it's obvious that in the heat of battle, Thor's base level strength and durability alike increase.
Had Thor been ready for him, Logan wouldn't have reached him to being with, much less cause him damage.
i see, well it seem like i didnt know much about the odin force so thanks for the info next time instead of attacking i will try to learn first 👆
Originally posted by battleclub
oh shut up already seriously thats his only feat that his fanboys just love to wank so much, piercing and foce attacks are different things and as i said again the showing with logan is no less proof then that desak showing and your showing isnt more of a proof and doesnt hold more weightand he killed hulk and thing? thathappened in a different universe that isnt 616 so it doesnt count nice try moron
Murder=/=kill in this use of the word. He thrashed Hulk in h/h in the Reigning, Hulk and Thing.